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Shinko 705 review

Ok last Friday, Metzeler Tourance ESPs replaced by Shinko E705 pair - 150/70 17 and 110/80 19. Scrubbed in Saturday, initial pressures set at 2.5bar F and 3bar R for Sunday ride (two up, bitumen).
These tyres feel completely different to the ESPs. The blurb says the Shinkos are 70/30 road/off. If that's the case then the ESPs were definitely 90/10. That's not to say the Shinkos are lacking on the tar, more that the ESPs are that good.
First run about 200km round trip mixed quality bitumen surface, two-up, 60, 80, 100km/h speed zones with plenty of windies including hairpins and sharp doglegs.
Oh, and 39C......
Have to say, I can't remember any other time the front of a bike I'm riding has felt so solid. Went looking for road grooves to check tram-tracking, and only a barely discernible twitch - more correctly manifested itself as a little wiggle in the arse - barely. Very impressive and confidence inspiring.
Back end very solid with no drifting under acceleration or braking. Again, inspires confidence.
Not as throwable as the ESPs, but definitely solid. Bike Tends to fall-in differently and there's a certain "buzz" feel, most likely the blockier tread pattern.
Going to back off the rear pressure to 2.9 bar and see what happens.
So far so good.
Now let's look for some dirt...
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Let me know how these tires workout over time. They are on my shortlist. I was considering the K60, Tourance Next and these. The 80/20 road/dirt is probably the right combo for me. Interested in wet performance, and how they hold up to a heavy GS. Thanks J
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Thumbs up A week in...

Settling in well. No dirt yet.
Great road adhesion and no squirming. Thought they might have been a bit squishy.
Running 2.4 and 2.8.
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I bought my 06 back in July with worn Anakees on it. I put a set of 705s as they are super cheap here in the US. I am very impressed with the overall performance. On smooth pavement, they grip well enough to scrape pegs, very stable. They rumble a bit, but I expected that looking at the tread pattern. My dirt experience has been limited, but they seem to work well enough for my abilities. We'll see when I take the RawHyde course next month =)

I run BMW owners manual pressures on the road, dropping them about 10 psi for dirt.

The front is still going strong at 5500 miles, but the first rear was nearly gone at 4000. I will attribute that mostly to my aggressive use of the throttle, but I was riding two-up for a lot of those miles and I prefer zaftig women (the last one broke up with me because I asked her to split the cost of the new rear )

I will continue to buy these and try to tame my heavy throttle application, but I refuse to date skinny women.

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1 month / 1000km

Halfway through the first "decent" ride with the 705s. Central Coast NSW to Brisbane via highway and secondary roads with a brief foray on a forestry road between Grafton and Casino.
Hwy performance is consistently good. All round adhesion is good. Noisy but I wear earplugs anyway.
Running 2.5 and 2.9 bar seems to be the ideal (for my 110kg with gear) on solid.
Did a few ks on a forest track but didn't change pressures. Seemed stable enough, and any shortcomings would be due to my riding, not the tyres.
Still waiting to see how they gain the wet.
Continue to represent good value so far.
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Stable in the wet!

Ipswich to Lismore via Mt Lindsay hwy and Summerland Way. Heavy overnight rain and showers persisting. Lots of bark, leaves etc. steep mountain highway with lots of tight bends, road deformation. In places (landslips).
Tyres were surprisingly sticky, and inspired confidence, while exercising appropriate caution. Had no slips at all. Tbh I was expecting less adhesion than what I got.
The Shinkos had every opportunity to let go, but it didn't happen.
I continue to be impressed.
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about 3000km on

about 50 km of unsealed road today - ranging from hardpacked to loose gravel with potholes and corrugations. Some muddy patches.
Started off with 25psi F & R but while the front loved that pressure, 25 was way too low for my fat ass and 28 - 30 felt much better.
So the front end - very confidence inspiring - solid and plenty of feel. Very impressed with this tyre.
Rear - as stated 28-30psi ideal for me (110kg) -good surface feel translated, and after a few minutes of getting used to it, confidence increased a lot.
Just as important as tyres is the setting up the suspension preloads - just the light terrain offroad.
So I continue to be impressed by the Shinkos. Like anything though, take the time to set up and experiment with all your settings - the difference between a good ride and a helicopter ride.
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Hey Greg - thanks for the ongoing review of the Shinko 705 tires. These had not been on my radar so far but certainly are now.
I had been leaning towards the Heidenau K60 but this was driven very much by the longevity. Reviews are talking about minimum of 10,000 km and as much as 16,000 km out of a rear. I'm planning on taking my bike back to the US next year and am searching for the magic rubber that will let me do dirt and road for 5 weeks and 15,000 km without having to visit a dealer for a new set.

I look forward to seeing how the Shinko last over the long run.

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TBH Mark

I doubt th Shinkos will go anywhere near the distance the K60s will. Mine are squaring off and I get the feeling 5-6000km will see them out.
I entertained Heidi's too but lost my nerve when I kept reading about misbehaviour in the wet and cornering. If I'm riding without confidence in my tyres, then I'm tense and not riding at my best. Not for me.
To be fair, I shouldn't comment because I've never personally used them.
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Mileage depends

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Hey Greg - thanks for the ongoing review of the Shinko 705 tires. These had not been on my radar so far but certainly are now.
I had been leaning towards the Heidenau K60 but this was driven very much by the longevity. Reviews are talking about minimum of 10,000 km and as much as 16,000 km out of a rear. I'm planning on taking my bike back to the US next year and am searching for the magic rubber that will let me do dirt and road for 5 weeks and 15,000 km without having to visit a dealer for a new set.

I look forward to seeing how the Shinko last over the long run.
Mileage all depends on how you ride and the roads you ride on. I burnt through a rear K60 in 4000 miles, but I also went on a very sprinted group ride through the California Sierra foothills and they were toast at the end! But I also went on a group ride where one of the riders on a Suzuki adventure bike had a K60s and there was plenty of wet roads and I never saw him slip or hold back. Stay away from paint strips though!

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