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post #1 of 26 (permalink) Old 08-Feb-2016, 09:14 PM (135) Thread Starter
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The Truth about the 1200 GS !!! Only the truth

You know that everyone I ask about this motorcycle speaks great about it but they are selling theirs. No one wants to really tell me the truth about the bike, the maintenance, the performance, the cost of "by the book" maintenance with the BMW dealers, etc.

I want to know because I am thinking about opening an Adventure Rental business with 4 of this bikes to start with.

Please only the truth !! Please elaborate.
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I own a 2010GS.
The standard rider's seat tortures your arse. Difficult for me to go more than an hour without a stop. This can be remedied easily - gel, air, aftermarket seats etc.
I struggle sometimes with the LCD instruments (but that's as much my eyes as the bike). Difficult to read with the sun behind you.
Standard screen reflects headlight glare back at you after dark. Again, easily fixed. I used rubber strips behind the screen with double-sided tape.
Honestly, I can't think of anything else that's been enough of a problem to mention, and these issues were easily remedied. Only really niggles.
I haven't had to do any out of the ordinary maintenance or repairs yet, but I try to be proactive, and that's always kept me in good stead.
Lastly, this is truthfully the best bike I've owned in 40 years of motorcycling. In many ways, but mainly in that it's the best match for my style and type of riding.
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I have 2014GS no problems at all. I was very skeptical about the BMW reliability, so far it has proven me wrong. This is my second BMW in 24 years of riding. I do all the basic maintenance my self. Major service I take it in to BMW.
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Thanks for the insights!! Please talk about the cost of maintenance, schedules, compare it to other bikes if you can. Level of difficulty performing maintenance, etc. Thanks again!!
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Thanks for the insights!! Please talk about the cost of maintenance, schedules, compare it to other bikes if you can. Level of difficulty performing maintenance, etc. Thanks again!!
I have 5600 miles on the OD. First service (600 miles) was done by BMW $214.08 including tax. I just bought oil and filter for $58 that will be my 6000K service. I will do the service, and take it to dealer to reset service reminder, cost is $25.00 plus tax. I don't have GS911 other wise I would reset the service reminder myself. 12000 miles service I will do it my self as well I have to add cost of air filter, 18000 mile service will be same as 6000 mile just oil change. 24K service I will take it in for only to check the valve and reset service reminder everything else I will do it. As compare to Harley's I use to own maintenance cost is cheaper on BMW so far.
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Do you do your own maintenance? If your answer is yes maintenance isn't all that expensive. If you are going to pay the dealer then be prepared to...

1) pay $100/hour or more with typical maintenance functions coming in at 2-4 hours.
2) pay full price for parts and supplies.
3) pay for things that you might not need. It's not that the dealer is ripping you off, it's that a dealer will almost always replace parts that could possible be re-used. Example: I will re-use valve cover gaskets many times. I inspect them pretty well and I do have a spare set in my garage if needed. A dealer will slap on a new set because it's faster AND there's less of a chance that there will be a leak that would cost the dealer time to repair and harm his reputation. Those gaskets aren't cheap (about $100 for a pair, I think).

Doing your own maintenance isn't hard. It is easier if you buy some of the special tools. A GS-911 will let you reset the service reminder.

Edit: my maintenance costs for my '13 have been $1,127.05 over 25,000 miles. That includes the cost of parts (like those gaskets I mentioned) that are still sitting in my spares container. It also include the $236.92 I paid the dealer for the 600 mile inspection. I typically let the dealer do that one. It does not include the price of any special tools purchased nor does it include the $951.07 I've spent on tires. That amount includes a front tire that has not yet been mounted.

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Thanks for the insights!! Please talk about the cost of maintenance, schedules, compare it to other bikes if you can. Level of difficulty performing maintenance, etc. Thanks again!!
Like Marc, I try to do as much as I can myself. I really don't count the $ that closely, as I figure it's an investment in reliability, and sometimes just makes life easier. Like a bike hoist, GS911 and decent tools.
You've got to be realistic though, and I know when my ambitions exceed my capabilities, so there are times when it's better to get a reputable professional do the job.
Service costs in Australia are astronomical, but if you pay peanuts you get monkeys.
In a nutshell, you have a class piece of machinery, so you will need to spend money. So don't expect Rolls Royce standards on a Kia budget.
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If you are serious about starting a business do your own homework. You can't base a business decisions on second hand cost opinions. You can easily compare maintenance schedules if you check around.

Four bikes is a very small operation so it would not make sense for you to have your own mechanic.
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I have 2014GS no problems at all. I was very skeptical about the BMW reliability, so far it has proven me wrong. This is my second BMW in 24 years of riding. I do all the basic maintenance my self. Major service I take it in to BMW.
hey there,

the manual says that the valves need to be checked every 6000, you plan to do it at 24k only?

i'm thinking to do oil and gear oil every 6000 miles, and valve check at the dealer at 12000miles

even though its really easy to check the valves but its a scary process.
the valve cover can be taken out with 3 bolts only and from there i think u can insert a feeler gauge and check it.

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hey there,

the manual says that the valves need to be checked every 6000, you plan to do it at 24k only?

i'm thinking to do oil and gear oil every 6000 miles, and valve check at the dealer at 12000miles

even though its really easy to check the valves but its a scary process.
the valve cover can be taken out with 3 bolts only and from there i think u can insert a feeler gauge and check it.

BMW wants you to check the valves 12K, but I never do. I normally don't have them check until 18K or 24K pending how the bike is running. Even then it is still good. I don't see the point to pay more money. I change my engine oil twice a year. Spring for the riding season then just before Thanksgiving. Also change brake fluid and gear oil once a year. Clean my air filter every time I change the oil. Bike is 2 years old still have the OEM air filter. I do follow the book but I use commonsense more. Changing the oil twice a year and brake fluid once a year, is over kill with today's technology. I do it because my 10 year old son loves to help me. He looks forward to work on the bike or the cars.
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