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post #1 of 16 (permalink) Old 24-Mar-2018, 04:28 PM (894) Thread Starter
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Radial or Bias Ply Tires for R1200 GSW

I have a 2014 1200 GSW and have been running Michelin Anakee 3's.
The Anakee 3's have been a GREAT road tire but I've not been impressed with them once off the tarmac.
I'm interested the new Mitas E-07+ tires. These tires are bias ply.

When I inquired about these tires for my wethead (from one large online seller), they discouraged me from running bias tires as they say the bike was engineered for a radial tire, and my handling characteristics would be greatly altered.

I inquired with another large online seller, the told me the feedback they have that a bias ply tire would be perfectly fine on my wethead. They did mention that because of the harder carcass, they would be more difficult to spoon on.

I am looking for feed back from riders who have run bias ply tires on their wethead, specifically the new Mitas E-70+ tires.
Also wondering if the lugs are so big that they would rub on my MAM Mudsling?

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I have a 2014 1200 GSW and have been running Michelin Anakee 3's.
The Anakee 3's have been a GREAT road tire but I've not been impressed with them once off the tarmac.
I'm interested the new Mitas E-07+ tires. These tires are bias ply.

When I inquired about these tires for my wethead (from one large online seller), they discouraged me from running bias tires as they say the bike was engineered for a radial tire, and my handling characteristics would be greatly altered.

I inquired with another large online seller, the told me the feedback they have that a bias ply tire would be perfectly fine on my wethead. They did mention that because of the harder carcass, they would be more difficult to spoon on.

I am looking for feed back from riders who have run bias ply tires on their wethead, specifically the new Mitas E-70+ tires.
Also wondering if the lugs are so big that they would rub on my MAM Mudsling?

TIA
I run Shinko 705 Bias tires without any problem. If you're going 150 MPH, you need V rated tires. Bias tires are fine for sub 100 MPH!
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There is no such thing as a bike that is "engineered for radial tires", truth is that for large motorcycles radial tires make up 90% of the market and in some sizes there is no alternative.

In the mid-70's car manufacturers started making changes to suspensions to optimize them for the new radial tires that were new and becoming increasingly popular, they normally installed smaller sway bars with stiffer bushings and springs and slower valving in the shocks to compensate for the radial tires softer sidewall, this was all in the sake of handling and comfort.
This has almost zero relationship to the GS's of today, but you may notice a firmer ride with bias tires.

I don't think that you will have any difficulty with fit or rubbing the sectional (max tire) width is 7.3" and the overall diameter being 26" on the E-07+ so you can easily make your own measurements to be sure.
From what I have read it sounds like a great 50/50 tire.

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I have a set of E-07's in the garage next to my '17 GSA, which I cannot at present ride. They are really good-looking tires and I hope to try them out in about 6 weeks. There is a multi-page thread over at adventure rider that should tell you about everything there is to know about the E-07 for the WC.Mitas E-07 PLUS | Adventure Rider
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I Have been running the K60 Scouts with no problem but also have a new set of E-07 + to put on soon. Look forward to trying them out on the Alpine Loop in Colorado this June.
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E-07, as yet untried. Will report back.

I put some E-07s on, but only about 40 miles on them. I'll be taking a 200 mile trip next Saturday and will report back.
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Bias is okay

I ran both radial and now K60 scouts bias then going back to radials in a bit for a long 100% road trip. Found removing and mounting either is no issue
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VATU How did those new E-07+ tires do on your Saturday ride?
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I run Shinko 705 Bias tires without any problem. If you're going 150 MPH, you need V rated tires. Bias tires are fine for sub 100 MPH!
Subject drift. You sure the 705s are bias ply? The rear I mounted Saturday was a radial, E-705 170/60R-17.



I, too, am curious about the E-07. I get 8K on the 705.
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Subject drift. You sure the 705s are bias ply? The rear I mounted Saturday was a radial, E-705 170/60R-17.



I, too, am curious about the E-07. I get 8K on the 705.
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Shinko 705 Dual Sport Tires
Designed for 80% street and 20% trail riding, the Shinko 705 has a versatile tread pattern for excellent wet and dry weather adhesion and smooth running on the highway.

Features:
Rubber compound resists tearing during off road use
4-ply construction
Front/Rear indicates that tire can go on either the front or rear on the bike
Tires are bias ply except where indicated
150/70R18 TL 70V is a radial tire
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