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post #1 of 14 (permalink) Old 12-Jul-2019, 02:15 PM (802) Thread Starter
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Re-fitting tires / swapping rubbers?

Was up at Smart Riding Adventures a few weekends ago riding the 2019 850GS and 1250GS offroad (dirt roads, dirt & sand trails, easy single track) and I appear to have pick up some sort of virus that wants me to take my 2016 R1200GS off pavement. Weird. So I have some tires on order**.

That said, my Metzeler Roadtec 01s (Metzeler fanboi here) still have some useable life in them.

Please excuse the ignorant question but, if I swap my Metzelers out for some offroad worthy rubber, is it safe to put them back on again later? Does removing them mangle them at all? My long distance touring buddies aren't on off road capable bikes (well, you *can* take a Road Glide Ultra off road I suppose) so I could see me putting them back on for such a trip (or just keep the offroad tires and find some side roads for myself).

**Anlas Capra X ... never heard of them before but the reviews seem pretty good, and my dealer has them on for $100 each.

Had to be me. Someone else might have gotten it wrong.
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It depends

I took my 2/3 life left Shink 805's off of my 15' GS and put on 705's to go from FL to WA with the hope of putting them back. I went to an independent shop as my local dealer will not install tires not purchased from them. That said the 805's were damaged during the removal process and can't be reused.

Some would suggest buying a second set of rims but that's a bit of coin to have sitting around. That's why I stick with Shinko, as they are hard to beat for the money.

BTW, been to Kingston for work several times and it's a gorgeous city.
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That's one of the beauty's of having your own tire machine. If its a bike w/o mutiple wheel sets I'll put fresh rubber on for a trip then come home and switch back to finish up the old tires.

Another benefit of changing tires for your friends is they have 1/2 worn tires and want new rubber for a trip I get their takeoffs to finish up. I also try and keep a few good used tires in various sizes around so if someone traveling through has a tire issue I can get then up and running for free.

Actually it'd be nice to start a registry of folks with tire changers that keep takeoff around so that folks could reference if they are traveling and have tire related issue.
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Back in the 70s we would swap Dunlop K81 front to rear on the Nortons to get all the wear we could from them. Long as you don't mess up the bead, no problem!
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Was up at Smart Riding Adventures a few weekends ago riding the 2019 850GS and 1250GS offroad (dirt roads, dirt & sand trails, easy single track) and I appear to have pick up some sort of virus that wants me to take my 2016 R1200GS off pavement. Weird. So I have some tires on order**.

That said, my Metzeler Roadtec 01s (Metzeler fanboi here) still have some useable life in them.

Please excuse the ignorant question but, if I swap my Metzelers out for some offroad worthy rubber, is it safe to put them back on again later? Does removing them mangle them at all? My long distance touring buddies aren't on off road capable bikes (well, you *can* take a Road Glide Ultra off road I suppose) so I could see me putting them back on for such a trip (or just keep the offroad tires and find some side roads for myself).

**Anlas Capra X ... never heard of them before but the reviews seem pretty good, and my dealer has them on for $100 each.
As long as you don't bugger the bead, no issue. When you think about it, it's no different than pulling a tire to patch a tube.

Took the same course last year, great guys. Did you have John for an instructor? If so, did he show you the tap your nose trick?

If I may ask, who is your dealer, that's great pricing for those tires
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Thanks for the replies all. Helpful feedback. My dealer (Ottawa Goodtime) is the same ... they won't install tires not bought from them, and I got the Metzelers from another Motorrad shop (Endras). Which is fine. OGC offered to name a number of other places in their area that would do the work, and I'm pretty sure my local guy would do it too. Or I could do it myself (a tire change machine would be nice!)

Either way, I'm not super hung up on loosing the mileage if I decide to just ditch the Metzelers. I should probably leave the Metzelers on at least until my Lake Huron loop trip is done (and ride the hell out of them), but it's just one set of tires and I am jonesing to start doing some light (very light ... still need crash bars) gravel & dirt.

@kramdunc - Kingston is great. Been here since 1994. Easy access to Toronto / Ottawa / Montreal, and plenty of good riding!

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Took the same course last year, great guys. Did you have John for an instructor? If so, did he show you the tap your nose trick?

If I may ask, who is your dealer, that's great pricing for those tires
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I had John for an instructor 2 years ago when I did a half day of Motorcross training with them. For the half day GS training I had ... Louise I think her name was? Everyone is awesome up there. Fairly certain Clinton is literally the nicest guy on the planet. Planning to do the Level 1 GS with them next year.

Ottawa Goodtime Centre / Ottawa Motorrad has the Anlas Capra R and Capra X on sale for $99.95CAD per tire (installation extra). About $330CAD installed.
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I had John for an instructor 2 years ago when I did a half day of Motorcross training with them. For the half day GS training I had ... Louise I think her name was? Everyone is awesome up there. Fairly certain Clinton is literally the nicest guy on the planet. Planning to do the Level 1 GS with them next year.

Ottawa Goodtime Centre / Ottawa Motorrad has the Anlas Capra R and Capra X on sale for $99.95CAD per tire (installation extra). About $330CAD installed.
Thats 1/2 the price of anywhere else.
I'm presently running the Karoo 3's on my GSA, other than being loud they are an excellent tire with plenty of grip on wet or dry tarmac

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Thats 1/2 the price of anywhere else.
I'm presently running the Karoo 3's on my GSA, other than being loud they are an excellent tire with plenty of grip on wet or dry tarmac
I would definitely consider the Karoo 3s. I am a big Metzeler fan (German engineering ... what's not to like?!). Had their Roadtec Z8s on my old FZ6, and the Roadtec 01s on my GS are fantastic. Crazy smooth on the freeway. Mitas E07s have been getting a lot of love, so I was looking at those as well, but hard to pass up this sale on the Capra Xs. Having never heard of Anlas before, I admit I was biased against them. But the reviews seem to be universally positive. Would love if someone did a decent review on Youtube (Chaparral Motorsports, I'm looking at you).

Had to be me. Someone else might have gotten it wrong.
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Thats 1/2 the price of anywhere else.
I'm presently running the Karoo 3's on my GSA, other than being loud they are an excellent tire with plenty of grip on wet or dry tarmac
Oh, and I don't seem to recall John's tap your nose trick!

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