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post #1 of 19 (permalink) Old 15-Feb-2016, 02:32 AM (355) Thread Starter
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Unhappy Motorcycles are overpriced.

Last week I took my R1200GS LC to my local BMW dealer to have the left handlebar switches replaced for the second time (cruise control not working, again). Whilst it was being repaired I went for a walk. Just up the road was a Honda car dealer. In pride of place on the forecourt was a new Honda Civic with a sticker price of 14995. I later looked up details of said car to find a surprisingly high specification for that price. My GS would now cost 14640!

Don't get me wrong, if asked if I would like to drive the Civic or ride a GS, the latter would win every time, but why does a motorcycle cost so much when I get so little for my money. I am not directly criticising BMW since I regards all large capacity motorcycles as being overpriced.
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I reckon it's simply return on investment, BoF. They sell more cars than bikes, so volume sales make for cheaper production costs and they break even more quickly.
Bikes need to be priced higher as they sell less. If they didn't make a profit, they wouldn't make em.
And we'd be staring out windows like neutered tomcats...
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Agreed

BMW sold 40,000 R1200GS+R1200GSA units worldwide in 2015 which was a sales record.

Honda sold 400,000 Civics in North America alone.

At those volumes the tooling amortisation for the BMW would be significant per unit sold
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Motorcycles are overpriced

Well, I heard a "redneck" axiom when I was a kid that I've never forgotten. My uncle rode his new Harley Panhead dresser to our home to show it off and my dad wanted to know what it cost. My uncle said, "They're about the same as a new Volkswagen." True then, true now.

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Anything hobby related has a premium price!
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Buy either an airplane or boat and you will think the BMW moto's are very inexpensive.

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So here's a question to get you thinking about why things cost what they cost. Do you think things like cars, motorcycles, refrigerators, and whatnot should be relatively priced according to how they cost to make or according to how much the market will pay?

This is a totally different question than what *you* might be willing to pay for something. There are people that think a Lexus is just an expensive Toyota and would never buy one. There are people that put some value on what the Lexus offers that aren't important to the other buyer and they'll buy it for a much greater margin to the factory than the Toyota.
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Buy either an airplane or boat and you will think the BMW moto's are very inexpensive.
Considering my '14 GS LC cost about 1/6th of my last airplane and is sometimes even MORE fun, and I don't have to have someone's permission to change the brake pads or add farkles, I think it's really cheap!!!!!
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Considering my '14 GS LC cost about 1/6th of my last airplane and is sometimes even MORE fun, and I don't have to have someone's permission to change the brake pads or add farkles, I think it's really cheap!!!!!
You need a more exciting airplane!



I spent 10x on this one in 2004 but it's been something that just about defined me for the last decade+. What's really frustrating is to own something this simple and still yet be a certified airplane that requires all the oversight. Bikes are so much easier.
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