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post #1 of 14 (permalink) Old 24-Aug-2017, 12:09 PM (715) Thread Starter
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I love night rides, and hence this post.

On long distance night rides, I often get the feeling that I am overrunning my headlights on my 2012 r1200GSA.

A friend recommended Clearwater lights.When it comes to adding lights, I am a noob, so I will go to my local shop.

My questions are as follows:

1. How many lumens does a 2012 R1200 GSA put out?
2. Do I need to go higher than 6000 lumens for riding on roads?
3. Are there other comparable lights that people here use?
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I don't drive at night too often myself, so when I add lights its for being seen purposes. I had Hyper Lights on my GTL, just ordered Skene Photon Blasters for my GS front end.
Clearwater seems to be the go to aux lights, they do cost, but supposedly are bright as heck and have a great support staff.
Denali, Givi, and I think SW Motech make some decent aux lights also for less money.

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See and be seen

See and be seen, that's what my goal was when i started looking for daytime running lights that would also give some usefull output after dark.

I spent a fair bit of time looking into the various brands on the market before settling on the Clearwater brand.

https://www.clearwaterlights.com/col...s/all-products

My first lights a few years ago were a pair of Krista lights mounted on my lower crash bars.

On my current bike i have a set of Erica lights, bigger output at night.

You can mix and match if you want by running a smaller pair during daylight, and having a bigger pair come on when you use high beam at night.

Check out the link and see what fits your needs.

After market service and advise is excellent.

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You should check to see if your lights are properly aimed. It could be as simple as raising the beam. I do not know what kind of bulb you run, but some bulbs lose their punch over time. Replacing the bulbs may help.

Putting lights, or any other accessory, on a CanBus equipped bike like yours is a bit more complicated than a machine with traditional wiring. If you are unsure of your skill level then best to get a pro to help. I'm no expert on lighting, but I know there are multiple factors affecting the use of lights. Lumens are one, but lens design also has an impact. I have Clearwater lights on my FJR, but they are more for being seen than seeing; I run amber lenses on them. Clearwaters are very pricey, are good quality and if you call they will provide you what you need. I have Denali lights on a couple of other bikes. Also good quality and less expensive. I have Riggs on one of Spousal Unit's bikes; relatively crude.

Lastly, just how fast are you riding at night? 😏

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Hi Bond

Here is how I fixed my crappy light problem;

Installed some 30w Cree aux lights on the GSA.

I got 2 x spots and 2 x floods off ebay for $65. I am normally not a fan of cheaper stuff but most people who have bought these have been happy with them. I found the quality to be really good.

To prevent the canbus from getting upset I Installed a fuse block under the seat where the tool bag goes using a relay from the battery triggered off the wire from the diagnostic port. This way it only comes on when the ignition is on and as it is directly run from the battery Canbus is non the wiser.

I installed a relay for the spots and a relay for the floods and each set has their own switch. I put them up on the bit of black trim that is attached to the very end of the beak under the cover of the windscreen so at least if I ever remove them I can just add a black 1/2" bung to fill the hole. Not real convenient to get to but most of the time they will be on with the high beam.

My electrical engineer son reckons he can configure the fog lights to come on with the low beam as well but dim so they can be used as daytime running lights then I could remove the factory ones.
Really happy with the finished product. Super clean white bright light.
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You should check to see if your lights are properly aimed. It could be as simple as raising the beam. I do not know what kind of bulb you run, but some bulbs lose their punch over time. Replacing the bulbs may help.

Putting lights, or any other accessory, on a CanBus equipped bike like yours is a bit more complicated than a machine with traditional wiring. If you are unsure of your skill level then best to get a pro to help. I'm no expert on lighting, but I know there are multiple factors affecting the use of lights. Lumens are one, but lens design also has an impact. I have Clearwater lights on my FJR, but they are more for being seen than seeing; I run amber lenses on them. Clearwaters are very pricey, are good quality and if you call they will provide you what you need. I have Denali lights on a couple of other bikes. Also good quality and less expensive. I have Riggs on one of Spousal Unit's bikes; relatively crude.

Lastly, just how fast are you riding at night? 😏
I will do both - replace the bulb, and get it pointed properly.

I didn't intend to do this myself - there's a beemer dealership closeby, and they're pretty awesome folks.

It's wasn't speed as much as the constant worry about not seeing enough ahead. But I frequent two-lane rural highways with some wild life.. a few times when it finished raining, I couldn't see anything at all due to the reflection off the wet ground from my regular lights. The fog lights didn't help either. I have 20-20 vision - so that wasn't an issue either!
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it only took one night ride to learn that the stock lights are pretty much worthless and then there are the drivers pulling out in front of me from side streets, I solved all that with Clearwater darlas. put the yellow covers on in the daytime (these suckers re bright). at night it lights up the road about 1/4 mile or better and I'm personally not going to try to outrun those lights!
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They are pretty spendy but you won't find better lights than the Clearwaters. They come in several sizes and outputs and the larger ones like the Ericas or Sevinas will turn night time into day. They are adjustable too so that you can run them at an output that isn't objectionable to oncoming traffic and kick them into brighter levels when your high beam comes on, or adjustment on the fly with the controller they sell.

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Son of a gun!! This is great work Homer.

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Hi Bond

Here is how I fixed my crappy light problem;

Installed some 30w Cree aux lights on the GSA.

I got 2 x spots and 2 x floods off ebay for $65. I am normally not a fan of cheaper stuff but most people who have bought these have been happy with them. I found the quality to be really good.
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