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post #21 of 27 (permalink) Old 06-Oct-2018, 06:33 AM (481)
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So I have all of the Vario boxes (sides and Top) I was having a conversation with a friend who told me he only uses the side cases because the top box destabilizes the bike. After looking at my bike from the rear i can see how this could be the case. However, the convenience of having the topbox for me is important. I had a Ducati Monster before my GS and I had to ride with a backpack everyday. I was hoping I could get some opinions from guys who ride with cases on their bikes. Should I switch to the side cases for everyday use?
A loaded top-box makes the bike a bit more top heavy, but I've never noticed it actually affecting stability at high ow low speed. With appropriate instrumentation I'm sure you could find a measurable difference but, for me at least, it's definitely not enough to notice.

Had to be me. Someone else might have gotten it wrong.
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No Issues with stability

I have the same set up on my 2015 GS. Stability has not been an issue for the speeds we have observed both single and 2 up. (up to 180 kph) Cannot comment on anything faster.
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I use GIVI v46 top box put random items in most of weight goes in duffels on back seat 2 40L bags holds it all

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The suggested maximum load for the vario top case is 11 lbs. at a speed of 110 MPH. Now, any reasonable person could probably stuff 20 lbs. worth of stuff in the top case, which would reduce the speed to approximately 55 MPH. Most speed limits in this country range from 65-75 MPH on interstates. The point is, if you can feel 20 lbs. on the back of the VERY capable GS, you are way more sensitive than me. In fact, I would venture a guess that 20 lbs. of weight on the rear would actually help handling and braking by putting more downforce on the rear suspension and tire.
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I like your way of thinking Catbrown357 I would ride back in the 70's and load that bike up with stuff just need more bungee cords, and those bikes did not handle like a GS

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I don't have Vario cases. I have BMW Pannier and top case. I ride with them all almost all the time, I am in California and find that it does not really interfere with splitting lanes, as long as you know that you cannot zip in and out of traffic. You have to remember that the rear is as wide as the front when you are coming back into a lane.

Sport Riding in the twisties, I have the pannier /top case loaded with gear/tool, supplies . I have not encountered wobbles or instability. That's averaging 80-90 on freeway. I have gone over 110mph with no issues at all. Concerning at times since the pannier/top case says do not max 88mph I think.

I keep them on in case I go somewhere I can bring regular shoes, store my helmet and jacket instead of dragging in with me.

I received a free BMW duffel bag , when I purchased bike when they had reflector issue and couldn't purchase panniers. So Dealership gave me bag for the trouble. I'm looking forward for opportunity to use them attached to passenger seat with fully loaded pannier on an adventure.
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Having top box on its own is the default setting for me, and I encounter no issues, including when loaded up with shopping etc. Similarly, top box and side cases, with or without the wife on board, gives more grief. Oh - not true. Grief comes from wife when I exceed 100 kay's...

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Hahaha, I only get that if I don't give her a heads up before a big hand full of throttle. She starts the "WOO HOO's" when I hit 120kmh. On the Bandit 200kmh +. She asks how fast when we stop then grins from ear to ear. Off road's a different story. Stuck to me like paint. I don't notice the top case either and it's on there all the time.
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