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post #1 of 27 (permalink) Old 16-Aug-2018, 08:36 AM (567) Thread Starter
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Stability with BMW VARIO Top Box

So I have all of the Vario boxes (sides and Top) I was having a conversation with a friend who told me he only uses the side cases because the top box destabilizes the bike. After looking at my bike from the rear i can see how this could be the case. However, the convenience of having the topbox for me is important. I had a Ducati Monster before my GS and I had to ride with a backpack everyday. I was hoping I could get some opinions from guys who ride with cases on their bikes. Should I switch to the side cases for everyday use?
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A LOT of people ride bikes with a top box and no side bags just like that without problems. My brother is one. Makes it a lot easier to split lanes here in California. I say ride it a month or two and see for yourself.
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I ride with all 3 Vario's installed 99% of the time, I'm always packing stuff around and shopping.
I've never had any stability issues because of them nor does the GS get any measurably better fuel economy without them.
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I ride with all 3 Vario's installed 99% of the time, I'm always packing stuff around and shopping.
I've never had any stability issues because of them nor does the GS get any measurably better fuel economy without them.
Thanks guys I was actually thinking of riding with the side cases on all the time also just to be used to it when I go away. I might start doing that.
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It depends on what you put in the topcase. They're so high up and far behind the rear axle, that it has the potential to lever the front end up.

I had a 52L Givi topcase and if I kept heavy things in there, the front wheel would lift off the ground while on the centre stand. Not good. That told me I had to lighten the rear end, because I was losing steering feel.

So mostly I just kept light clothing in the topcase, left it mostly empty unless we were going grocery shopping and riding for just a short while.

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Thanks guys I was actually thinking of riding with the side cases on all the time also just to be used to it when I go away. I might start doing that.
This is how I ride. Top box for long trips . No stability issues , but I do have a problem with the bracket working loose after miles of riding. Need to address that issue before next trip. I use the Jesse setup and the top box mounts to the toolbox which is mounted to the support bracket.

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I'm always a bit surprised how little I notice when my bike is loaded up with full side and top Vario cases. The bike feels very stable with them on. That said, I never ride with just the top box on alone. I suppose if fully loaded it would raise and push back the center of gravity (cog). But with the boxer engine the bike's cog is fairly low so I suppose it lessens the effect of the cargo boxes compared to other bikes with higher cog's.
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I'm always a bit surprised how little I notice when my bike is loaded up with full side and top Vario cases. The bike feels very stable with them on. That said, I never ride with just the top box on alone. I suppose if fully loaded it would raise and push back the center of gravity (cog). But with the boxer engine the bike's cog is fairly low so I suppose it lessens the effect of the cargo boxes compared to other bikes with higher cog's.
I do not notice the top box at all. Thats why I mentioned it on the site. I am surprised as well I did notice how the suspension got higher after i picked the setting with luggage though.
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Having top box on its own is the default setting for me, and I encounter no issues, including when loaded up with shopping etc. Similarly, top box and side cases, with or without the wife on board, gives more grief. Oh - not true. Grief comes from wife when I exceed 100 kay's...

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