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post #1 of 17 (permalink) Old 25-Apr-2019, 11:14 AM (676) Thread Starter
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Your opinions - Arai XD-4 or the Klim Krios Karbon

In the market to upgrade my lid to the above mentioned. Found a sale on the Arai XD-4 for around $500 and the regular price for the Klim Krios is around the same. What are your thoughts? I have tried the Arai and it seems comfortable as far as the shape is concerned. Anyone running with these and can comment on "all day" wear and comfort? Thanks.
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As a huge Arai fan I lean towards Arai, but the fit is a very personal thing. Can you try either before you commit?
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I tried both at a motorcycle show last year and ended up with the Arai. The Klim had a pressure spot on my forehead whereas the Arai felt so comfortable. The Arai also impressed me more with fit and finish

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I have the Arai XD-4 (matches my bike ). Klim just didn't fit me as well. Arai an Shoei are the best fit for me, I also have a Neotec that has seen better days (in it's 5th year).

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Again, noggin shape. I have a long oval head and the Klim fits me better. To massage out any hotspot of any helmet I've always used the back of a melon baller scoop utensil to form the inside of the helmet foam to fit the shape of my head better.
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Arai has been making helmets for a damn long time. They are both SNELL and DOT approved, and you can't buy a better helmet for your money. It all depends on what fits you best. Klim is a relative newcomer to the helmet and M/C clothing scene. Yeah, they are popular, but I don't think they are proven in helmet R&D. Arai is. Do your research on Arai. They have a helmet fitting process, and make helmets to fit all shapes of heads. I have the XD-4 and LOVE it. So comfortable. I have what is considered an "oval head." Look at Shoei, AGV, and Schuberth. A good helmet is going to cost you $500+. It's only your brain.
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Again, noggin shape. I have a long oval head and the Klim fits me better. To massage out any hotspot of any helmet I've always used one of those little melon baller scoop utensils to form the inside of the helmet foam to fit my brain pan.
Pretty sure when you have a massive brain injury, the helmet company is going to wipe away all liability because you've "melon balled" the inside of their protective structure.
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In the market to upgrade my lid to the above mentioned. Found a sale on the Arai XD-4 for around $500 and the regular price for the Klim Krios is around the same. What are your thoughts? I have tried the Arai and it seems comfortable as far as the shape is concerned. Anyone running with these and can comment on "all day" wear and comfort? Thanks.
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Arai has been making helmets for a damn long time. They are both SNELL and DOT approved, and you can't buy a better helmet for your money. It all depends on what fits you best. Klim is a relative newcomer to the helmet and M/C clothing scene. Yeah, they are popular, but I don't think they are proven in helmet R&D. Arai is. Do your research on Arai. They have a helmet fitting process, and make helmets to fit all shapes of heads. I have the XD-4 and LOVE it. So comfortable. I have what is considered an "oval head." Look at Shoei, AGV, and Schuberth. A good helmet is going to cost you $500+. It's only your brain.
History is replete with stories of companies that have "been making things for a damn long time" getting their corporate asses handed to them by newer guys on the scene. I like Arai, Shoei, Schubert and have owned more than one of each but I'm open to improvements in design and construction that lead the industry to new places. I'm really intrigued about the Koroyd construction of the new Klim hats. My current Shoei Hornet X2 is coming up on 5 years old and I'm starting to shop around. The claims of Koroyd materials is pretty impressive and I'm hoping that lid fits my noggin. If it does, that's the one I'll buy next.

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Pretty sure when you have a massive brain injury, the helmet company is going to wipe away all liability because you've "melon balled" the inside of their protective structure.
I'm pretty sure that when I have massive brain injury the last thing on my (or my family's) mind will be helmet manufacturer liability but your point is well taken. Modify your helmet at your own peril and better to get a hat that fits properly to begin with. The best helmet advice I can give is get one that fits your head snugly but well shaped with no hot spots, full face, and the absolute best tech (lightest and proven) you can afford. I was won over in the 1970's by Bell's adds about "if you have a $10 head..."

I have friends that push back on the full-face advice to which I say, OK, then I guess you're OK with protecting everything but your face. I took a slide when I was 17 years old on the front of a Bell helmet that had it not been a full face design, I wouldn't have a face. It wore through the shell down to the substructure of the helmet on the chin bar. I've never owned anything but since.

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