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post #21 of 30 (permalink) Old 01-Mar-2018, 12:11 PM (758)
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Those of you that use your phone for navigation, do you experience overheating in the summer?

Last time I did this, my phone shut itself off due to heat. I think the cause was a combination of using GPS, the sun shining directly on the phone, and the battery being charged.

Since then, when I use the phone to navigate, I keep it in my pocket to get more cooling airflow, but then I can only rely on the voice prompts. If you have the Sena SMH10 and are in group comm mode, this is a no-go.
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post #22 of 30 (permalink) Old 01-Mar-2018, 02:14 PM (843) Thread Starter
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“You do not need cellular reception to get a GPS lock - the iPhone includes a dedicated GPS receiver. If you are using an app that requires internet access to download maps data, you need an internet connection via an available wi-fi network or via the cellular network, but not for GPS reception alone.”



Now that is interesting to read, thanks Clay.
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post #23 of 30 (permalink) Old 01-Mar-2018, 04:03 PM (919)
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Thanks. Just installed and it [Navigon] was free.
Really? I just looked at it (on the Apple app store) and it was free for seven days, then five bucks a month.

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My biggest problem with using my smartphone (Samsung Galaxy S8) is that it's not glove friendly and has a small display.
And all my other phones have had the same issue.
Not glove friendly because of size, or touch screen? If the latter, these might work.
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Not glove friendly because of size, or touch screen? If the latter, these might work.
Both size and touch screen, these gloves might be the answer for some but for $65 you could buy a good used Nuvi with mount and still pocket a few bucks.

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Those of you that use your phone for navigation, do you experience overheating in the summer?

Last time I did this, my phone shut itself off due to heat. I think the cause was a combination of using GPS, the sun shining directly on the phone, and the battery being charged.

Since then, when I use the phone to navigate, I keep it in my pocket to get more cooling airflow, but then I can only rely on the voice prompts. If you have the Sena SMH10 and are in group comm mode, this is a no-go.
Mine did shut itself off due to heat once last summer. It was a 90 degree day, and it shut off after maybe four hours of riding, complaining of heat. After it cooled, it worked OK again. That's the only time it happened. The other five days of that trip (which were just as hot) it worked fine.

Details: it's an otherwise retired (no cell service) iPhone 4S running the Maps.me app. It's inside a black OtterBox case, mounted above the speedometer so it's in direct sunlight all the time, and it's always connected to a charging cable when it's on the bike. I think this is probably a worst-case scenario: no cell service, so it's constantly looking for satellites (I also think satellite location is more compute-intensive than location based off cell towers), it's in a black case in direct sun, and it's charging all the time. Plus the display is at max brightness all the time. Surprised at times it doesn't just go up in smoke.
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Really? I just looked at it (on the Apple app store) and it was free for seven days, then five bucks a month.



Not glove friendly because of size, or touch screen? If the latter, these might work.

Whoops. Sorry.

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Both size and touch screen, these gloves might be the answer for some but for $65 you could buy a good used Nuvi with mount and still pocket a few bucks.
I have a Nuvi that I picked up for a few bucks when I needed a back up GPS. Something to note on the Nuvi is that it does not support loading tracks. There's a way to do it that involves creating a map overlay with your tracks so that it becomes part of your base map. It takes a few other tools and if you are like me and want to ride a lot of off-road tracks, you'll need something better. I use the Nav V and VI on my bikes and works great but it's a very spendy bit of kit for guidance. For something that works that well and is integrated with the bike, it's worth it to me. Put it in to perspective - I'm riding a $20K+ ADV bike, taking a couple of weeks off from work and family, and riding thousands of miles from home in challenging locations - is several hunnert bucks for your primary guidance really a deal breaker? For me the answer is no.

I hear of people having great success with apps that include downloaded maps for their phones. It seems like there's always some learning curve and the way it's described seems like a "roll your own" solution that takes some work. But the folks that do it swear by the fact that they can buy rugged Android phones on Amazon for less than $50 and load up their guidance apps and base maps and it works great. There's quite a lot of info about this approach on the ADVrider forums.

And finally, if you're a road warrior and don't leave the pavement (or use tracks) - and are looking for street level guidance, then just about anything will work and the Nuvi is a fine affordable choice if you don't care about integration with the bike.
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I also use a NAV-VI on my GS.

My recommendation regarding a Nuvi was simply that in my past experiences trying to use a phone and a Nuvi that I'll take the Nuvi any day of the week over the phone.
Some Nuvi models have more features than others, I had a Topo map and Street map on my Nuvi and it worked well for me.
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My biggest complaint with the Garmin devices (I've had a Nuvi and I currently have a Zumo 660) is that they're agonizingly slow when you're entering an address. It's so quick on a phone app.
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post #30 of 30 (permalink) Old 11-May-2019, 02:07 PM (796)
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Couldn't you just use google maps; download the map region for offline use, and it should work as is?
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