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22-Apr-2019 04:26 AM (393)
LAS
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Originally Posted by PlotShots View Post
I know that the Aerostitch leaks under heavy rain at the crotch. We all know it does. That’s he one complaint across the board amongst the many users. My beef is with Klim’s claim that it’s “waterproof”. It’s not. But they say it is. But it’s not. So I sent it back to them for inspection and testing. The one positive that Klim has over Aerostitch is that it’s less expensive than the Aerostitch.


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The Hardanger is priced about the same as the Aero on sale. The Aero is custom made to fit the way you want it. Klim comes in S,M,L, XL, XXL. Try figuring out which one you are! Not everyone fits these sizes and they are different than most other clothing manufacturers’ sizes by similar designations. Aero has several versions. With or without lining, lighter fabric, several colors- you choose. I have a classic Roadcrafter for the colder months and an R3 light for the warmer months. Black in winter, light grey in summer. The R3 was cut to fit less loosely than the Roadcrafter as I don’t need to wear the same layers under it as I do in cold climate.
22-Apr-2019 04:16 AM (386)
LAS
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It's not so much the fairing or lack thereof as it is your seating position on the bike.

Put your one piece suit on and sit on the bike. Look down. How does the material around your crotch fold? If the folds create a pocket with the zipper at the bottom of the pocket the suit will leak. So called waterproof zippers only delay the amount of time before that happens. You can often re-arrange the folds such that the zipper is not on the bottom of a pocket. If you do that you are much more likely to get to your destination dry.

However, beware moving around on the bike. The folds can rearrange, leading back to zipper on the bottom.

When I owned an RT the seating position naturally led to no leaking. On my GS I have to consciously move the folds around and remember to check once in a while when moving around in the saddle. Or wear my Darien/AD1 combo. If it starts leaking it's time for repair or replacement. My last Darien lasted about a dozen years before that happened.
Marc, as usual, you have it exactly right again. If you allow rain to pool in your crotchety, any suit short of a diving dry suit will leak. When I ride in the rain, , I make sure every so often depending on how heavy itís coming down, to empty the pool. No leaks.
21-Apr-2019 03:09 PM (839)
mikec
Need a road suit Reply to Thread

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Originally Posted by PlotShots View Post
I know that the Aerostitch leaks under heavy rain at the crotch. We all know it does. Thatís he one complaint across the board amongst the many users. My beef is with Klimís claim that itís ďwaterproofĒ. Itís not. But they say it is. But itís not. So I sent it back to them for inspection and testing. The one positive that Klim has over Aerostitch is that itís less expensive than the Aerostitch.

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I heard about the Aeorstitch leaking in the crotch when I bought my first suit back in '96 but I didn't have that issue. My newest Darien jacket with Aerostitch's AD-1 pants haven't leaked yet either. I had a Klim Latitude and it leaked after about a year. I did the Tech Wash thing and it didn't help so sent my Latitude back, too. It passed their inspection and, after paying $150 in shipping charges, I sold it.

Mike
21-Apr-2019 03:08 PM (839)
Kam As an owner of the one piece Aerostich, and 2 piece Aerostich durian, I have had my 1 piece leak only at the crotch under heavy rain when the water pools there in the saddle.

Regarding the 2 piece. Never. I swear I could jump in the ocean and come up dry. I have been in absolute downpours in the 2 Piece, I mean biblical rain(!) and not a drop.

Kam
21-Apr-2019 02:51 PM (827)
PlotShots
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Originally Posted by flyjets View Post
Frosty



I think you will find these 1 piece suits are designed for touring bikes. K1200 K1600



Itís a common problem on Aerostich 1 piece as well.



This leaking you speak of happens on unfaired bikes in heavy rain especially if puddling occurs.



I also own the Hardanger but use it on the K1600 and in heavy rain no leaks.


I know that the Aerostitch leaks under heavy rain at the crotch. We all know it does. Thatís he one complaint across the board amongst the many users. My beef is with Klimís claim that itís ďwaterproofĒ. Itís not. But they say it is. But itís not. So I sent it back to them for inspection and testing. The one positive that Klim has over Aerostitch is that itís less expensive than the Aerostitch.


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21-Apr-2019 02:01 PM (792)
marc
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Originally Posted by flyjets View Post
This leaking you speak of happens on unfaired bikes in heavy rain especially if puddling occurs..
It's not so much the fairing or lack thereof as it is your seating position on the bike.

Put your one piece suit on and sit on the bike. Look down. How does the material around your crotch fold? If the folds create a pocket with the zipper at the bottom of the pocket the suit will leak. So called waterproof zippers only delay the amount of time before that happens. You can often re-arrange the folds such that the zipper is not on the bottom of a pocket. If you do that you are much more likely to get to your destination dry.

However, beware moving around on the bike. The folds can rearrange, leading back to zipper on the bottom.

When I owned an RT the seating position naturally led to no leaking. On my GS I have to consciously move the folds around and remember to check once in a while when moving around in the saddle. Or wear my Darien/AD1 combo. If it starts leaking it's time for repair or replacement. My last Darien lasted about a dozen years before that happened.
21-Apr-2019 11:28 AM (686)
Kam I learnt my lesson regarding really hot weather riding...nearly passed out.

I now wear one of this vests that you submerge in water to keep my core temperature from spiking. I keep it in a 1 gallon zip lock bag that I fill with water and then remove vest once it sucks up the water.

Kam
21-Apr-2019 11:05 AM (670)
Crucian Extreme heat and suits: Not having a lot of + 100F experience I did some research before a trip that would see plenty of that. In dry desert heat too much venting is your enemy. Air at a temp greater than 93 degrees circulating around your "trunk" makes it difficult to keep your core temperature down. This is the short track to a heat stroke.

Close the vents, drink water on a schedule, not when you become thirsty and all is good. I rode deserts for nearly a month, from 116F in Bakersfield California down the gut to Calexico, Yuma and more with not a day less than 108 degrees.

High temperature/high humidity? I guess some of those soaker under garments are ok but you're going to be miserable if you stop, suited up.

I wear Aerostich.
21-Apr-2019 07:13 AM (509)
flyjets Frosty

I think you will find these 1 piece suits are designed for touring bikes. K1200 K1600

Itís a common problem on Aerostich 1 piece as well.

This leaking you speak of happens on unfaired bikes in heavy rain especially if puddling occurs.

I also own the Hardanger but use it on the K1600 and in heavy rain no leaks.




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Originally Posted by PlotShots View Post
I actually bought the Hardanger suit in mid-March and I usually fit in an XL size or Euro 56 (I think), but this suit fit best as a Large. I use it to commute as I have to wear a uniform to work, so itís nice to just set into the suit & go. I do feel protected with the feel of the suit.

BUT....

It is most definitely NOT waterproof. It does a good job as a light rain protector, but if you go through and hard rain where a possibility of some puddling of rain around your crotch and top of thighs, that area are gonna be wet. Itíll look like you pissed yourself. Like really bad.

Now hereís where is starts to get me upset... Klim warranty requires you to ship the suit to the factory. On YOUR dime. This is a performance issue, not a breakage of any one component. So I gave the suit back to my dealer, who is in turn giving it to their sales rep, who is sending it back to Klim for inspection. I have no idea how this will turn out, when or even IF Iíll get my suit back. In the meantime, Iím using a 2 piece suit - Sedici Adventura jacket with Olympia overpants. I have waterproof covers for both the jacket and pants and they are truly waterproof. So no performance loss in my view.

In hindsight, I probably wouldnít have bought the suit in the first place knowing the issues with Klim warranty considering the cost of admission. Just my $0.02

Cheers!


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21-Apr-2019 05:35 AM (441)
Kam I, like LAS, previous poster, ride my bike to work, 40 miles each way. Every day. Rain or shine. I also have a Aerostich suit. Actually, I have 2 sets. I have my preferred one piece, and a jacket + pants.

I've been in 25f ~ 115f with zero comfort issues. Yes, you wear the appropriate under clothes.

For my daily 1 piece suit, I get to work, unzip out (seconds) and I'm in my jacket and tie suit. I've gone to big meetings with clients, wearing very posh (ok, sometimes we need to dress the part!) suit jacket tie outfit, unzip out of Aerostich, change shoes, comb hair, and Noone is the wiser.

3 weeks ago, my main zipper jammed after 3+ years. I sent to Aerostich for repair. They replaced the whole main zipper, replaced my left wrest zipper, washed, rechecked weatherization. Cost? Nothing.

These suits are not cheap. But the support of the company is stellar.

Also, these suits don't come in small, medium, large, but actual sizes!

I give them top marks.

Kam
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