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15-Jul-2019 11:53 AM (703)
Candubrain
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Originally Posted by fdbm17 View Post
I would definitely consider the Karoo 3s. I am a big Metzeler fan (German engineering ... what's not to like?!). Had their Roadtec Z8s on my old FZ6, and the Roadtec 01s on my GS are fantastic. Crazy smooth on the freeway. Mitas E07s have been getting a lot of love, so I was looking at those as well, but hard to pass up this sale on the Capra Xs. Having never heard of Anlas before, I admit I was biased against them. But the reviews seem to be universally positive. Would love if someone did a decent review on Youtube (Chaparral Motorsports, I'm looking at you).
From my research tire life for the rear is the same as all the rest, the big selling point is the low price.

John taught me to tap my nose just before a difficult section, to take you mind off what you are about to do.

Tire machines are nice to haves, but I have no problem swapping tires using my irons.....all in the technique, and lots of lube. Haven't tried the ty-wrap trick yet, I might on the next round
13-Jul-2019 07:21 PM (015)
fdbm17 Ok, well, I am slowly being convinced. I'll likely get my dealer to install the Capras, strap the Metzelers to the pillion and look at getting a machine. I am planning to do the BMW MC Ottawa Advanced Rider Training / pseudo-track day at Calabogie next Spring ... the Metzelers would do nicely there.

Thanks all.
13-Jul-2019 05:15 PM (927)
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Originally Posted by PerazziMx14 View Post
If you invest in a tire machine they pay for themselves very quickly. Not only do you get to order tires online for 20 to 50% cheaper than you pay at the dealer you save $40 to $50 per tire on the changing. You also can switch tires back and forth to get all the mileage out of them saving another 10 to 30%. Some other benefits are you change tires when you want them changed. No taking off a 1/2 day of work to get to the dealer or dropping the bike at the dealer and then having to get someone to pick you up and drop you back off once the tires are changed.

My machine (NoMAr was around $500 USD) and within 3 set of tires it was more than paid for. Since then I have changed 100's of tires for friends who either give be $20 per tire or a case or 2 of beer.


Actually this year I have quit accepting any compensation from friends for tire changes. My machine has paid for itself several times over and now its time to give back and hopefully get paid only in good Karma.
Same here, my friends know they don't have to, but the machine and myself works much better when beer is involved.
13-Jul-2019 09:27 AM (602)
PerazziMx14 If you invest in a tire machine they pay for themselves very quickly. Not only do you get to order tires online for 20 to 50% cheaper than you pay at the dealer you save $40 to $50 per tire on the changing. You also can switch tires back and forth to get all the mileage out of them saving another 10 to 30%. Some other benefits are you change tires when you want them changed. No taking off a 1/2 day of work to get to the dealer or dropping the bike at the dealer and then having to get someone to pick you up and drop you back off once the tires are changed.

My machine (NoMAr was around $500 USD) and within 3 set of tires it was more than paid for. Since then I have changed 100's of tires for friends who either give be $20 per tire or a case or 2 of beer.


Actually this year I have quit accepting any compensation from friends for tire changes. My machine has paid for itself several times over and now its time to give back and hopefully get paid only in good Karma.
12-Jul-2019 09:23 PM (099)
fdbm17
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Originally Posted by Candubrain View Post
Thats 1/2 the price of anywhere else.
I'm presently running the Karoo 3's on my GSA, other than being loud they are an excellent tire with plenty of grip on wet or dry tarmac
Oh, and I don't seem to recall John's tap your nose trick!
12-Jul-2019 09:05 PM (086)
fdbm17
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Originally Posted by Candubrain View Post
Thats 1/2 the price of anywhere else.
I'm presently running the Karoo 3's on my GSA, other than being loud they are an excellent tire with plenty of grip on wet or dry tarmac
I would definitely consider the Karoo 3s. I am a big Metzeler fan (German engineering ... what's not to like?!). Had their Roadtec Z8s on my old FZ6, and the Roadtec 01s on my GS are fantastic. Crazy smooth on the freeway. Mitas E07s have been getting a lot of love, so I was looking at those as well, but hard to pass up this sale on the Capra Xs. Having never heard of Anlas before, I admit I was biased against them. But the reviews seem to be universally positive. Would love if someone did a decent review on Youtube (Chaparral Motorsports, I'm looking at you).
12-Jul-2019 07:49 PM (034)
Candubrain
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Originally Posted by fdbm17 View Post
I had John for an instructor 2 years ago when I did a half day of Motorcross training with them. For the half day GS training I had ... Louise I think her name was? Everyone is awesome up there. Fairly certain Clinton is literally the nicest guy on the planet. Planning to do the Level 1 GS with them next year.

Ottawa Goodtime Centre / Ottawa Motorrad has the Anlas Capra R and Capra X on sale for $99.95CAD per tire (installation extra). About $330CAD installed.
Thats 1/2 the price of anywhere else.
I'm presently running the Karoo 3's on my GSA, other than being loud they are an excellent tire with plenty of grip on wet or dry tarmac
12-Jul-2019 04:41 PM (904)
fdbm17
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Originally Posted by Candubrain View Post
Took the same course last year, great guys. Did you have John for an instructor? If so, did he show you the tap your nose trick?

If I may ask, who is your dealer, that's great pricing for those tires
brian
I had John for an instructor 2 years ago when I did a half day of Motorcross training with them. For the half day GS training I had ... Louise I think her name was? Everyone is awesome up there. Fairly certain Clinton is literally the nicest guy on the planet. Planning to do the Level 1 GS with them next year.

Ottawa Goodtime Centre / Ottawa Motorrad has the Anlas Capra R and Capra X on sale for $99.95CAD per tire (installation extra). About $330CAD installed.
12-Jul-2019 04:37 PM (901)
fdbm17 Thanks for the replies all. Helpful feedback. My dealer (Ottawa Goodtime) is the same ... they won't install tires not bought from them, and I got the Metzelers from another Motorrad shop (Endras). Which is fine. OGC offered to name a number of other places in their area that would do the work, and I'm pretty sure my local guy would do it too. Or I could do it myself (a tire change machine would be nice!)

Either way, I'm not super hung up on loosing the mileage if I decide to just ditch the Metzelers. I should probably leave the Metzelers on at least until my Lake Huron loop trip is done (and ride the hell out of them), but it's just one set of tires and I am jonesing to start doing some light (very light ... still need crash bars) gravel & dirt.

@kramdunc - Kingston is great. Been here since 1994. Easy access to Toronto / Ottawa / Montreal, and plenty of good riding!
12-Jul-2019 04:22 PM (890)
Candubrain
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Originally Posted by fdbm17 View Post
Was up at Smart Riding Adventures a few weekends ago riding the 2019 850GS and 1250GS offroad (dirt roads, dirt & sand trails, easy single track) and I appear to have pick up some sort of virus that wants me to take my 2016 R1200GS off pavement. Weird. So I have some tires on order**.

That said, my Metzeler Roadtec 01s (Metzeler fanboi here) still have some useable life in them.

Please excuse the ignorant question but, if I swap my Metzelers out for some offroad worthy rubber, is it safe to put them back on again later? Does removing them mangle them at all? My long distance touring buddies aren't on off road capable bikes (well, you *can* take a Road Glide Ultra off road I suppose) so I could see me putting them back on for such a trip (or just keep the offroad tires and find some side roads for myself).

**Anlas Capra X ... never heard of them before but the reviews seem pretty good, and my dealer has them on for $100 each.
As long as you don't bugger the bead, no issue. When you think about it, it's no different than pulling a tire to patch a tube.

Took the same course last year, great guys. Did you have John for an instructor? If so, did he show you the tap your nose trick?

If I may ask, who is your dealer, that's great pricing for those tires
brian
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