Don’t do it. Always best when riding alone. Unless she’s a hot blonde w nice air bagsNahhh I'll do it the old fashion way, hold the rear/front brakes and work the clutch :grin2: I get daily practice on commute to work, I always manage to catch the red light on steep uphill. The first few times I embarrassingly stalled her. After more practice I don't even think about it. I'm almost ready to take a scenic trip to downtown San Francisco with a passenger.