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Hi all!

I hope all is well with you and yours.

Okay, I ride every day, rain or shine. My choice :smile2:...with this current setup (2015 GS), going 6 straight years riding every day...

Today it rained here, alot, I mean a freaking ton! So I donned my 2 piece Aerostich Darien setup (jacket pants https://www.aerostich.com/suits/jackets-pants/darien).

But wait! "Why am I not wearing my Aerostich one piece suit (https://www.aerostich.com/suits/one-piece-suits/r-3) that you love?", you ask.

Did I mention it was raining? We'll get to that.

My experience regarding riding in rain. I mean not light rain, but 1 hour of very very heavy rain, along with wind at times. We're talking extreme amounts of rain! 1 hour-ish because that's my commute time when it's raining.

Darien Pants

These pants are extremely dependable in the rain. They have never leaked in the crotch area. They have never leaked, period. I swear to you, I could walk into the ocean with these pants, and walk out, and still be dry! The zippers on the legs have never leaked, especially when wind is involved. Driving water into the zipper. I would absolutely buy another pair when it's time.

Darien Jacket.

This Jacket is very dependable in the rain. The main zipper has never leaked. Especially when wind is involved. Just like the pants, the material has never leaked, very solid. And I must again emphasize I'm talking about alot or rain for an hour! I may buy another jacket when it's time...

MAY?!

There is a leak point. :frown2: The collar. When it's raining, after sometime, the moleskin fabric starts getting saturated and starts pulling water into the jacket. End result is my inner jacket(s) start getting wet, starting at the neck and working itself down....boooooooo! The worst to date got my shirt collar (and tie there) soaked, along with about 4 inches of the tie, working it's way down! Really sucked. I ended up sitting next to a heater to assist drying!

Sooooooooooo, today I was excited that it was going to really rain, and I was going to try my waterproof hoodie thingy (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07JDJKDDZ) in the rain.

Yesterday I tried it where I wore it over my suit. So it hangs there like a tiny cape.:grin2: My thinking was that the rain will soak that, and not get into the inner area. The overhang material started riding up, flapping in the wind type of thing. So I decided that maybe put the suit over the cape.

So today, I wore the hoodie thing, were it's tucked in the jacket. Got home, and the collar was soaked. I could see where the water was leaching down, but the hoodie material stopped it from getting onto my clothes. I called it a success. I will be wearing this hoodie until something better comes along....but it works! great. I would prefer it on the outside, so maybe weigh it down or magnets etc...

R-3 suit

I LOVE this suit. I wear this bad boy 100% when commuting, unless it is raining. I truly love being able to wear my work clothes (suit) and just slip into it. Getting to work, and literally just unzip and step out of it.

it has the same issues with the collar. Which is now solved with the hoodie thingy.

it leaks thru the left main zipper. it manifests itself in 2 areas; firstly,the crotch area. Where it transitions from being a "leg" zipper to a "chest" zipper. There is a flap that covers the zipper, and in theory that may be true, unless the zipper bunches there. And on the GS's prone position, that's exactly what happens. And after some time, water gathers there, and just leaks thru. wet wet wet crotch all day. Yes, I've sent it in to be "fixed" and on the very next day I got it back, it rained, and yes, leaked same spot.

Now, the "chest" zipper has a more substantial flap the covers the zipper. But, water over time just works it way inside the zipper, so I end up having a wet line that follows the chest zipper!

I truly wish it didn't leak as I really prefer R3 over the Darien for my commute.

So long story short, R3 unless it's raining, then Darien.

~Kam
 

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That's strange. My R3 has not leaked at all. When I sit I pull it up in front and fold it down. It was difficult to do at first but the suit breaks in. I keep the collar velcroed tight around my neck. I wonder if it's the tie that's causing your problem around the neck.
 

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That's strange. My R3 has not leaked at all. When I sit I pull it up in front and fold it down. It was difficult to do at first but the suit breaks in. I keep the collar velcroed tight around my neck. I wonder if it's the tie that's causing your problem around the neck.
Can you please explain what and how you fold the pants? We had rain today and I wore the r3 instead of the Darien, and yes, got some spotting in the crotch area...

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After I get on the bike I reach down with both hands around my belly button and pull up on the suit and fold down. It eliminates the pouch that can collect rain. Your suit may need to be re-water proofed. Here is what Aerostich says:

Maintaining Breathable Fabric
After the manufacturing process that bonds the breathable/waterproof membrane to the Cordura fabric, a DWR (Durable Water Repellent) chemical treatment is applied that prevents water from being absorbed into the Cordura’s fibers. Water should bead and run off the outer surface of your suit’s fabric so moisture vapor from the inside can pass through the membrane. Keeping your suit clean will allow it to perform better. If the outer Cordura fibers become saturated in wet conditions, the water layer forms a barrier that causes vapor to condense on the inside surfaces of the garment so you become wet, even though no water is passing into the garment through the membrane
Over time and after extended wear, this original DWR treatment wears away and must be renewed. By periodically laundering your suit with a wash-in treatment like Nikwax TX Direct® (see below), or by applying a post-wash water repellent product like Scotchgard®, Revivex® or Tectron®, you can insure that water will bead and run off the fabric, and that vapor will always be able to pass through, even in wet conditions. Maintaining the DWR also helps your suit dry faster after being in rain.


Cleaning/Laundering
Do not dry clean unless clear distilled solvent and a spray repellent are used. Machine washing is recommended. Remove the TF pads and the contents of all the pockets. Close all vent zippers. Wash using the regular cycle, and a “warm” water setting. Use only mild liquid detergents, wash-in water repellent products, or non-detergent soaps formulated specifically for outdoor fabrics. When using mild detergents, run the complete wash/rinse cycle a second or third time with no detergent. The second or third water-only rinse is required to remove any residual detergent. Hang dry or machine dry at a medium temperature. When dry, tumble your garment on warm dryer setting for 20 minutes to reactivate the DWR (Durable Water Repellent) treatment. Do not use anti-static products if using a dryer. Reinsert the TF pads. Hook and loop fasteners may pick up lint when washed, this can be removed using a fine comb. If applying additional spray-on or wash-in water repellent products, follow the directions on the product label. Small stains can be removed using ‘spot cleaning’ stain removal products. Citrus based cleaners work well for cleaning oil stains.


Increasing Water Resistance of Roadcrafter Main Zippers
The Roadcrafter’s unique zipper arrangement is a key to it’s convenience and function for everyday riding. This design can become a source of water entry in extremely wet conditions. To dramatically improve Roadcrafter suit performance in severe rain conditions use either a wash-in water repellent or hand seal three areas: 1) The perimeter stitching and knit zipper tape around both underarm zips; 2.) The stitching and knit zipper tape along the right leg zipper from the top to a few inches below the knee; 3.) The stitching and knit zipper tape along the left leg zipper from two inches above the bottom of the hook and loop flap to three inches below the knee.
Wash-in repellents like Nikwax TX Direct® penetrate all fabric fibers, stitching and knit zipper tapes during laundering. In addition to improving breathable fabric function in wet conditions, they are an effective way to minimize leaks around zippers. Hand applied liquid seam sealing products like Seam Grip®, should be thinned enough to completely soak into the fabric, thread, and stitching. (Liquid sealants are thinned with Cotol® or toulene.) Apply two coatings and allow the sealer to dry between applications. Apply sealant to both the knit zipper tape and the stitching attaching the zipper to the garment. The seam sealer should soak into the knit and dry invisibly. Excess sealant will interfere with the operation of the zipper slider.
 

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Thanks for the great reply.

Okay, starting right now, whenever I get on the bike, I'll follow your fold recommendation. I'll get some zipper wax/sealant stuff too.

A zipper broke 6 months ago (4?) and they laundered, rewaterproofed it etc.

Thanks.

Kam
 
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