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First of all the bike: 2010 R1200gs cam head with 24,000 miles.

I bought the bike two years ago with only 14,000 miles on the clock. Due to UK Covid restrictions over the past year the bike has been used very little and stood for nearly four months over the winter.
I have decided to add Redex injector cleaner to a fresh tank of fuel and to see if any benefits can be noticed.


Has anyone used a similar product and if so how did it go.?
 

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If you believe in snake oil then "fuel treatments" are for you.

Look up the MSDS/SDS and you'll find that in overwhelming amount of instances these "elixirs" are nothing more than Naphtha, kerosene, mineral spirits or a blend of the aforementioned.

I've also been curious as to how powerful these elixirs are. Typically a 4 or 6 ounce bottle treats around 20 gallons of fuel. So 6 ounces treats 2,560 ounces of fuel. Ghat damn this stuff is more powerful than Superman. Especially after you read the SDS and find only about 1/2 the ingredients are "active" so the reality is around 2 ounces of "active ingredient/s) treat 2,560 ounces of fuel....Ho Lee Fook!

Do fuel treatments help, maybe but doubtful.

Do fuel treatments hurt, maybe but doubtful.

Are fuel treatments better at lightening your wallet than they are at treating fuel......YES!

Use a good quality top tier fuel supply don't worry about it and ride on. If the injectors are plugged or partially plugged passively cleaning them with gasoline and "cleaner" mixed at a 1280:1 ratio is like throwing a deck chair off the Titanic hoping it will sink slower. If the injectors are plugged/partially plugged mechanical cleaning is needed. There are plenty of video's on YT showing the process. If you watch them it'll be a lot more clear that passively trying to clean them is all but useless.
 

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I must admit the small amount recommended does seem inadequate
Redex has been around for many years in the UK and readily available in garages and even supermarkets. It seems to have a loyal following and costs £2 for 250ml. A 20 litre bike tank needs only 50ml so no biggy on the cost front.
After posting I added 50ml and went on a 100 mile run with no ill effects, the dash readout showed 50mpg imperial (60 US) which is a couple more than normal, but that may be just within a margin of error.
 

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Chev Techron (probably one of the best on the market) brand here in America, does work in many auto and motorcycle applications.
Definitely cleans fuel injectors and throttle bodies.
Careful tho...loosened contaminants can and will collect on the 02 sensor registering the Check engine light on.
Best to remove throttle bodies or injectors from the bike and clean.
02 sensors can be sensitive to foreign materials other than fuel.
 

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Chev Techron (probably one of the best on the market) brand here in America, does work in many auto and motorcycle applications.
Definitely cleans fuel injectors and throttle bodies.
Careful tho...loosened contaminants can and will collect on the 02 sensor registering the Check engine light on.
Best to remove throttle bodies or injectors from the bike and clean.
02 sensors can be sensitive to foreign materials other than fuel.
Can you post some 1st hand proof of its workability? I'd love to see the before and after of say a semi-clogged fuel injector.
 

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Like this video I have no belief you will get deep cleaning but do run a couple tankfuls a year when bikes have been sitting a bit.


 

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You can also de-carbon pistons and valves with water. I still have my doubts on passively cleaning injector or the "fuel system"
 

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Can you post some 1st hand proof of its workability? I'd love to see the before and after of say a semi-clogged fuel injector.
Oh, I’m sorry I forgot to take photos of the clogged injectors, or the dirty throttle bodies...
The card board used to show injector spray patterns was tossed into the garbage, maybe you could come over and dig through my garbage and find it.
As for my records of my fuel mileage,...all on gas station receipts which upon checking, were tossed after I calculated my mileage.

Go pick someone else to bicker n fight with.....
 

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You can also de-carbon pistons and valves with water. I still have my doubts on passively cleaning injector or the "fuel system"
Yes and old trick/wives tale from the ‘60s.
Also take the chance of cracking a valve....

Where’s your proof....?
 

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Like this video I have no belief you will get deep cleaning but do run a couple tankfuls a year when bikes have been sitting a bit.


Not a “Cure All” by any means.
But, used as a treatment to help clean any minor dirt that might have developed.
Best way to know is track your mileage.
 

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OP never disclosed any initial issues to begin with.
Yet, OP may feel the fuel has deteriorated some while stored.
Could also be true, the fuel has “soured” and OP looks to rejuvenate the fuel.
 

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Oh, I’m sorry I forgot to take photos of the clogged injectors, or the dirty throttle bodies...
The card board used to show injector spray patterns was tossed into the garbage, maybe you could come over and dig through my garbage and find it.
As for my records of my fuel mileage,...all on gas station receipts which upon checking, were tossed after I calculated my mileage.

Go pick someone else to bicker n fight with.....
I read on Facebook that Seafoam cures erectile disfunction. Must be true.
 

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For as long as as I can remember I've always used Sea Foam when storing my bike as well as any small engine equipment I own, I also put about 8 oz in the bikes periodically threw out my riding season. Does it help anything ? I'm not sure but it makes my feel like I'm giving them a little extra love and I'm ok with that...😊
 

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If the problem is the injector itself, it's not difficult to remove. I removed them and cleaned them on the ultrasonic bath for 5 minutes and dried them with gentle air pressure... I don't know if it is the right procedure, but they are still working.

Otherwise I consider the fuel treatments as the homeopathy of automobiles...
 

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Otherwise I consider the fuel treatments as the homeopathy of automobiles...
Hmm, I wonder if peppermint or tea tree oil would be best? A couple drops in the tank would surely cure most anything.
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OP never disclosed any initial issues to begin with.
Yet, OP may feel the fuel has deteriorated some while stored.
Could also be true, the fuel has “soured” and OP looks to rejuvenate the fuel.
My original post stated that the bike had been stood for four months, which is longer than normal for me due to Covid.
There was no problems as such but I had always been curious about Redex, it has been around since 1922, and decided a shot or two wouldn't do any harm.
What made me post was to see if other countries had a product with such a long standing following.
 

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My original post stated that the bike had been stood for four months, which is longer than normal for me due to Covid.
There was no problems as such but I had always been curious about Redex, it has been around since 1922, and decided a shot or two wouldn't do any harm.
What made me post was to see if other countries had a product with such a long standing following.
I'd not even be so concerned about 4 month old fuel (even E10) especially in a fuel injected bike. Over the winter my mower set full (carb bowl drained) as do several of the bikes I don't ride over the winter and come spring stab the starter and they roar to life.

But to answer your question we have several of these magic in a can that have been around for decades.

Marvel Mystery oil
SeaFoam
Stabil

Then there are newcomers like Startron that states it is a "fuel enzyme treatment". This is how you know these "treatments" are all full of shit. Startron might work at tenderizing a steak but in gasoline there are no proteins in the fuel for enzymes to break down. But the bottle says it works so it must.

Again these fuel treatments are better at lightening you wallet than they are at effecting the fuel system. They do not make old fuel new. They do not turn bad fuel into good fuel. They do not fix broken fuel system components and arguably they do not clean fuel system components or a least no more than simply running a few tanks full of "fresh" fuel through the system to help wash away any dirt or buildup in the fuel system.
 

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Not familiar with this product line, but I use Chevron Techron periodically and it is quite good.
Agree on the use of techron. I have used it on neighbors lawn mower that wouldn't start and after putting the appropiate amount in and giving it a few pulls to get the techron into the carb, it started after soaking for 15 minutes. I typically put some into the motorcycle tanks at the beginning of the season.
Jim
 
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