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Here is how I ride, and what I want:

  • I ride on the road. I'm not yet a serious off-road rider, but I do go on dirt roads.
  • Since I do track days, I lean a lot, so I push the bike to lower angles than most of my friends.
  • It's been drilled into me: suit up for the slide, not just the ride.
  • I don't want to start putting on a rain suit overall when it starts raining.
  • I don't want to bake when it is hot - vents would be awesome.
Budget: $1500 USD

I don't know jack about Enduro gear. I need your sage advice.

What do you recommend?
 

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In your price range you can own a Klim Badlands Pro suit. It's all dry (goretex) and has kept me completely dry in biblical weather. With the vents open on it, I used it to ride the entire Trans American trail from snow in the Rockies to 100+ F in the desert. It flows air pretty well with the vents open but you can feel like you're baking a bit when sitting still.

Klim has D3O armor and is incredibly durable. I've been down off-road in mine a few times in places that would have destroyed cheaper textile gear and you can't tell mine's not new after it's been washed.

There are others out there but I'm a fan of Klim.
 

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Klim gear is very good. But... I'll stick with my Aerostich gear for now. Why? Because my 'stich gear is still in good shape so there is no reason to change! That, and I don't know if the Klim gear will last as long as Aerostich gear. Most likely by the time my current gear wears out I'll know the answer to that question. I typically get a dozen years of use out of my Aerostich gear (both Darien and Roadcrafter).
 

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Here is how I ride, and what I want:

  • I ride on the road. I'm not yet a serious off-road rider, but I do go on dirt roads.
  • Since I do track days, I lean a lot, so I push the bike to lower angles than most of my friends.
  • It's been drilled into me: suit up for the slide, not just the ride.
  • I don't want to start putting on a rain suit overall when it starts raining.
  • I don't want to bake when it is hot - vents would be awesome.
Budget: $1500 USD

I don't know jack about Enduro gear. I need your sage advice.

What do you recommend?
It's been my experience, if it keeps out rain it holds in heat. Some do a reasonable job but the best results seem to be separate components. Why wear rain liners 24/7. I didn't have anywhere near your budget but got a great deal on an Olympia X2 jacket and Olympia Dakar pants. There rain liner packs small and goes on in a minute. The X2 jacket has massive venting that turns it 1/2 mesh if you open all. The thermal liner is warm enough for single digit C weather. The rain jacket looks good. I used it as my walk around on a 25 day ride. There customer service was an A+. I contacted them about the elbow protection in the jacket not articulating properly for my Baboon arms. 24 hours later upgraded padding and some stickers showed up at my door. No charge. I've never looked at $1500 gear so maybe what you want is out there but I'm suited and booted for about half that and good to go. Spend half your budget on gear and the other on a trip. Just a thought. Cheers.
 

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When I started riding, either Belstaff or Barbour suits were the “go-to” for serious riding whether in competition or touring. After that, I heard about Andy Goldfine’s Darien suit. Many of the motorcycle magazines reviewed it and it obtained high marks. My wife had just started touring with me so I ordered one for her. When I saw the quality of the product, I hung up my Barbour suit and acquired a Darien for myself. I used the Darien from 1996 until 2015. In all of those years, I was never wet in that suit. In 2015, I hit black ice on the Blue Ridge Parkway and surfed down the road for about thirty feet. The jacket was messed up but repairable. The Darien pants were fine.

At that point, I decided to give BMW’s Rallye suit a try. I took it on one trip and, somewhere in Kansas, I decided it was too “fiddly” because of the rain liner and the external shell soaked up water like a sponge. Who wants to get up and put on a damp riding suit? I called my wife and she sent my wounded Darien out to me. Next, I tried Klim. I liked the venting and, for two years, it kept me dry. I even learned to put up with their pants that were as baggy as M.C. Hammer’s favorite trousers. After that, though, the suit started leaking. Yes, I did all the Tech Wash stuff but it still leaked. Finally, I bought a new Darien jacket and some AD-1 pants. They’ve been to Alaska three times and on at least that many trips across the continent. I’m done with trying the latest, greatest riding suits. I’m sticking with what I know will keep me dry.

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I have used a First Gear Kilimanjaro suit for the last 3 years. Waterproof (if such exists), pretty good venting. I comes with thermal lining. Pretty good suit for a medium price.
 

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What do you recommend?
Klim Latitude suit is likely up your alley. Goretex, but not as heavy as the higher end Klim suits. It is targeted at everyday / all round riders. That's what I have been wearing since 2014. I can't speak to its track performance, but it does most stuff well. You'll roast in any goretex on the hot & muggy days, if you have those. I ended up getting a mesh jacket & pants from Klim as well.

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Gonna Wait until February...

I was told by my nearest crack, err, Klim dealer that a bunch of new stuff is coming out, including a one-piece, over-suit, well ventilated, life-time warranted riding suit similar to the Aerostitch product in February... So I'm waiting until February... Impatiently.
 

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+1 for Aerostich.

1) Made in America.
2) Customizable. I was just at an Aerostich Pop-Up event and was able to try on a few sizes only to find out the best option for me is to have one tailored to my size.
3) Of the most comfortable riding gear, I've ever worn.
4) Amazingly easy to get into/out of
5) Depending on the suit, if you go down they're repairable. Within reason of course.
 

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I was told by my nearest crack, err, Klim dealer that a bunch of new stuff is coming out, including a one-piece, over-suit, well ventilated, life-time warranted riding suit similar to the Aerostitch product in February... So I'm waiting until February... Impatiently.
An acquaintance that is really into one piece suits, said he saw the Klim one piece suit yesterday as was impressed. He did not get to try it on as it was too small for him. The rep said $1200 a copy-----wow! However, it is waterproof (if there is such a thing) with not liner required, well built, and etc. If it truly is lifetime warranted and it may be worth the cost of admission. At age 62, don't know how much life is left.:wink2:
 

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I actually bought the Hardanger suit in mid-March and I usually fit in an XL size or Euro 56 (I think), but this suit fit best as a Large. I use it to commute as I have to wear a uniform to work, so it’s nice to just set into the suit & go. I do feel protected with the feel of the suit.

BUT....

It is most definitely NOT waterproof. It does a good job as a light rain protector, but if you go through and hard rain where a possibility of some puddling of rain around your crotch and top of thighs, that area are gonna be wet. It’ll look like you pissed yourself. Like really bad.

Now here’s where is starts to get me upset... Klim warranty requires you to ship the suit to the factory. On YOUR dime. This is a performance issue, not a breakage of any one component. So I gave the suit back to my dealer, who is in turn giving it to their sales rep, who is sending it back to Klim for inspection. I have no idea how this will turn out, when or even IF I’ll get my suit back. In the meantime, I’m using a 2 piece suit - Sedici Adventura jacket with Olympia overpants. I have waterproof covers for both the jacket and pants and they are truly waterproof. So no performance loss in my view.

In hindsight, I probably wouldn’t have bought the suit in the first place knowing the issues with Klim warranty considering the cost of admission. Just my $0.02

Cheers!


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Aerostich used to be the go to and I have one, but seems Klim Badlands is the go to now.
Not even close. Aero is the most versatile, easiest to get into and out of, and offers the best protection of any non leather dedicated track racing gear. Klim makes quality gear, for sure, but it isn’t in the same league as Aero. I commute 50 miles each way, some highway, some NYC traffic, in a business suit, every day, rain or shine, except when there is ice on the major roads. I park, jump out of my suit and go to work. I’m dry in the rain and have loads of vents to keep me cool on the hottest of days. In winter, heated gear fits under the suit and has kept me toasty warm down to -4F. When it’s time for fun, my Aero gives me ultimate freedom. The protection from a crash or the elements is great. I couldn’t ask for more freedom of motion whether riding the twisties oron dirt trails. When I get where I’m going- a restaurant, a ball game, a friend’s, shopping, wherever, I m out of the suit in 10 seconds. I lock it to the bike and am in whatever attire I felt was appropriate for where I am. No walking around in motorcycle gear pants in restaurants, particularly in the heat of summer. My suit has been touring with me all over the world. In the mountains, through deserts. I’ve been on rides that start at 95F, drop to the teens and go back into the 90s. I’m as comfortable as one could expect in any gear, regardless of brand or type.
I recently had a highway speed crash courtesy of a cager who rear ended me. My injuries were relatively minor thanks to my gear. The Aero took a beating, but for $300 and change, Aero fixed it like new. It was ready to ride weeks before I was.
Can’t say enough good about my Aero.
I have several pieces of Klim gear, all pre Aero. I bought the Aero figuring it would be good for commuting, and I would wear my Klim or Rukka gear for everywhere else. A it has turned out,my Klim hasn’t made it out of my closet since the Aero arrived and the Rukka Air sees minimal duty only on the hottest days and only when the only thing I’ll be doing is riding, stopping for gas and riding some more AND there is no chance of rain.
 

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I, like LAS, previous poster, ride my bike to work, 40 miles each way. Every day. Rain or shine. I also have a Aerostich suit. Actually, I have 2 sets. I have my preferred one piece, and a jacket + pants.

I've been in 25f ~ 115f with zero comfort issues. Yes, you wear the appropriate under clothes.

For my daily 1 piece suit, I get to work, unzip out (seconds) and I'm in my jacket and tie suit. I've gone to big meetings with clients, wearing very posh (ok, sometimes we need to dress the part!) suit jacket tie outfit, unzip out of Aerostich, change shoes, comb hair, and Noone is the wiser.

3 weeks ago, my main zipper jammed after 3+ years. I sent to Aerostich for repair. They replaced the whole main zipper, replaced my left wrest zipper, washed, rechecked weatherization. Cost? Nothing.

These suits are not cheap. But the support of the company is stellar.

Also, these suits don't come in small, medium, large, but actual sizes!

I give them top marks.

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I think you will find these 1 piece suits are designed for touring bikes. K1200 K1600

It’s a common problem on Aerostich 1 piece as well.

This leaking you speak of happens on unfaired bikes in heavy rain especially if puddling occurs.

I also own the Hardanger but use it on the K1600 and in heavy rain no leaks.




I actually bought the Hardanger suit in mid-March and I usually fit in an XL size or Euro 56 (I think), but this suit fit best as a Large. I use it to commute as I have to wear a uniform to work, so it’s nice to just set into the suit & go. I do feel protected with the feel of the suit.

BUT....

It is most definitely NOT waterproof. It does a good job as a light rain protector, but if you go through and hard rain where a possibility of some puddling of rain around your crotch and top of thighs, that area are gonna be wet. It’ll look like you pissed yourself. Like really bad.

Now here’s where is starts to get me upset... Klim warranty requires you to ship the suit to the factory. On YOUR dime. This is a performance issue, not a breakage of any one component. So I gave the suit back to my dealer, who is in turn giving it to their sales rep, who is sending it back to Klim for inspection. I have no idea how this will turn out, when or even IF I’ll get my suit back. In the meantime, I’m using a 2 piece suit - Sedici Adventura jacket with Olympia overpants. I have waterproof covers for both the jacket and pants and they are truly waterproof. So no performance loss in my view.

In hindsight, I probably wouldn’t have bought the suit in the first place knowing the issues with Klim warranty considering the cost of admission. Just my $0.02

Cheers!


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Extreme heat and suits: Not having a lot of + 100F experience I did some research before a trip that would see plenty of that. In dry desert heat too much venting is your enemy. Air at a temp greater than 93 degrees circulating around your "trunk" makes it difficult to keep your core temperature down. This is the short track to a heat stroke.

Close the vents, drink water on a schedule, not when you become thirsty and all is good. I rode deserts for nearly a month, from 116F in Bakersfield California down the gut to Calexico, Yuma and more with not a day less than 108 degrees.

High temperature/high humidity? I guess some of those soaker under garments are ok but you're going to be miserable if you stop, suited up.

I wear Aerostich.
 

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I learnt my lesson regarding really hot weather riding...nearly passed out.

I now wear one of this vests that you submerge in water to keep my core temperature from spiking. I keep it in a 1 gallon zip lock bag that I fill with water and then remove vest once it sucks up the water.

Kam
 
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