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Panniers set & TOP CASE, half price compared to bmw oem, better quality in my opinion

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i've been searching for a pannier system for my 2016 1200GS ADVENTURE and found this set,

Pannier system (Left + Right Bags) for R1200GS 2013-2015 ADVENTURE LOCKS + MOUNTS

I was surprised that not many people knew about it, well i guess many of us don't want to take any chances and end up going with the OEM ones.
I wanted to save some $$ so i figured i'd give those a shot.

here is a youtube video on how to install uninstall etc.


the set costed me $599 plus $23 shipping,
Iv seen those posted on amazon.com with free shipping but now it's out of stock on amazon, but it's available on ebay and their own website.

i also got the top case just today, its really great, $299 only.. fits well and feels very sturdy, here is a video i just made, install uninstall
 

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I looked at them before I purchased my GSA with OEM bags,
They do look very good BUT they are made in China so I would not buy them because of that!
if "made in china" is a deal breaker for you, then you will end up with nothing to use cause almost everything we use on a daily basis is made there.. Also stuff assembled in china is getting better and better by the day, at the end, workers are human whether they speak chinese or german, they just need to be trained well and quality must be controlled well to get the product well made.

Where do u think your phone was made? iphone or samsung or anything acient? or your navigator V? ... all garmin products i think are made in china. i did not check my navigator V, but i have other garmin products and they are all made in asia.

i would be more scared of electronics made in china than couple pieces of thick metal pieces welded nicely together. there is nothing to go wrong in there but plenty to go wrong with circuit boards and electronics.

BMW and mercedes benz are no longer manufacturing everything in germany, my 2014 cla250 is made in hungary.
 

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I'm curious though where did you see where it's made ?
my panniers set are not tagged made in where, it's not that i care. but just curious.

I would think since the price of stainless steel is the same across the countries, stainless steel is like any other material,
i would think that welding it here in the U.S is cheaper than welding it in another country and shipping it and pay customs and everything.

anyhow, the manufacturing done on those is just the RIVETS which is done by a tool and the welding also done by a tool.
The tolerances and dimensions are perfect, the weld lines are also perfect. The lock cylinder is also of good quality.

and if i'm saving $1000 on other welded metal pieces stamped BMW... i would still take that chance.

I'm very happy with mine and planning to order the top case. I will probably make a video about that one also, I just need to send them the code for my key of the current panniers i have on my bike so that they change the cylinder lock on the top case to match the locks that i have. This will allow me to have 1 key that locks and unlocks all 3 cases instead of 2 keys.

anyway good luck boycotting Chinese made anything :D.
 

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Looks like a good find...clear cost advantage over OE bags. Long as stainless is same quality and construction is sound, I wouldn't hesitate to go with a set if I was in the market. Only thing that might worry me (and I'd really need to play with it to tell), are the latches you cinch down from the inside of each bag coming loose.
I'll keep giving an update as it ages.
the hinges are riveted and the lock is riveted.
it feels solid and the seals seems solid.

I'm now waiting for the center top case to arrive, it may take time because they are getting me the same lock cylinder i have on my side bags so that i have 1 key for all 3.
 

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In the future, you can change the lock cylinder to match your bike key fairly easily. I went to my local dealer to pickup some other items, and mentioned I had just received my bags from a site in the EU, lock sets included. He had me bring the lock set inside, and within about 20 mins, he had both new lock sets matched and working with my bike key.

I viewed a video online about doing it, just hadn't gotten around to it yet, and he offered. The only trick he did that I don't recall seeing in the video was dabbing a little white grease on each of the opening where the little tabs and springs inserted, so they would keep in place during his assembly and not keep slipping out while being handled.
yes they can do that, but they may force u to buy their lock cylinders, i think its around $189 for that mod. it's probably worth it. that way all the luggage open with the bike key.
 

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I don't have same case but on different case. I change the cylinder to fit my ignition key. I bought 2 cylinders from BMW $60 each then rekeyed it to the ignition key. Parts manager said since it wasn't BMW case he was not authorize to touch it. So I did it myself.
i figured they would say such a thing.
im a good with one extra key! i anyhow have keyless ride, so. i never carry the key, it's usually in my jacket or pack.
 

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If you have keyless ride no need to spend the extra money try to key it in. My case I had to many keys so it was worth it. By the way, nice panniers. If my GSW didn't come with side panniers. I would have bought the ones you have here. At that time Amazon was offering free shipping.
i believe if u contact brooks they may give you a free shipping code. there used to be a promo code for free shipping, 3333, not sure if it still works.
 

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I contacted Brooks auto sports and they said that the design/engineering was in Cla.
But the OEM was China,
And for the record yes most every the you purchase today is made in China,
I will not shop in a Dollar General,Family Dollar or a Walmart it's just Junk! From China!
So if I can limit what I need (for China) to a minimum then that is better for the US economy,
I personally work for Whelen Engineering and we are 100% USA manufactured complete from start to finish.
So check it out!

So if you like to supporting them (China) go for it,
Just don't complain when You are out of a job.
its not whether i like supporting or china or not. its really not your choice or mine to use china. hehe.
Most largest companies are headquartered there.. if you take that position, you are just being ignorant.
 

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very timely post, thank you. I have to purchase the sides and top in about 2 months on a r1200gs 2015......let us how they are holding u after a couple of months use. they look pretty good from here. did they fit like a glove or did you have to do a little "rigging"?
watch my utube video about the install.

they are still holding on fine.
i'm still waiting to receive the top case. it took long cause they are keying it for me to be the same key as the side ones.
 

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x7289155,

Did you get the panniers? Please post your thoughts about them if you did.

Thanks,

Mike
do you mean the side ones? yes i did, the video i have in there is MY BIKE.
i have been using it for almost a month.
ill post another video when i receive the top case and show the condition of the side ones.
 

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i finally ordered the top case to complement to SIDE PANNIERS that i have.

i should receive it tomorrow. i will post a utube review about that as well.

my panniers so far has been holding on very well, and they are pretty easy to remove to take to a hotel or what ever, or keep it locked.
they have been thru rain, cold, storms and offroad..

i will keep you all posted!.
 

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Tech Spec sells their shark skin in sheets that can be sized for the pannier lids, this will protect them from boot scuffs and any other issues with scratching you may have.. Will also cover up the scratches you already have....
good idea.
but i like marks and scuffs...


SCARS OF WAR AND ADVENTURE looks good on these adventure bikes! :D
 

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I got a set of these Brooks panniers a couple months ago for my 2015 1200GSW. Since my GS is white is comes with a black frame, so I got the black panniers with the black mounting frame. I would point out that the panniers are $599 but you also have to get the frame as a separate purchase for about $140 IIRC.

I am impressed with the easy of mounting as I am not a mechanical type at all. The features and quality of construction are good as well.

One thing that a friend pointed out to me who traveled the world for a few years. The OEM or Vario panniers can be lifted off and carried into a hotel room, whereas these panniers are fixed (relatively speaking, with their 'puck' mounting system). His point was that in another country many time he would be surrounded by dozens of people or kids all curious about his bike. Opening a pannier to get something out would be inviting disaster as quick, tiny hands could grab something and disappear.

Another nit is the mounting hardware. They sent regular stainless nuts to for the mounting frame, which is nice, but those nuts are critical. I went to Ace Hardware and replaced them with nylock nuts so there is no question about them ever backing off.

Also, I think the paint on these is somewhat 'soft' as far as the quality. In my particular case, I have a tight garage so I need to remove the panniers each time I parked the bike to fit it in with the car. I stack the panniers on the side. I noticed after several times there were some light scratches on the top of one of them, where I had stacked the other one on it. The little hard plastic 'feet' were causing small, light scratches just from sitting on the top. Now I stack them with a cloth covering the bottom one.

I am thinking about getting some of that plastic covering material they put on cars to protect the paint. I have not found a small roll yet and the stuff is expensive. But I worry about boots and bugs and stuff over time with these. They will need something to prevent visible wear and scuffs. The paint is just not up to snuff.

For the price diff I would sure do these again - they are solid, heavy duty, good quality latches and mounting hardware. Just be aware and pay attention to the paint. I would welcome anyone else to relay their experience with them. (I have not traveled with them yet).


which paint were you talking about ? panniers are not painted. also they fit 1200GSA without additional mounts
 

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thanks so much x7289155 for posting this and the video!

i have a new to me 2007 1200gs and have been agonizing the last week over buying the touratech for $1500. i have the oem vario slide out cases and they are complete junk. but i didn't want to spend $1500 either on new ones. also the givi and sw motech are ust ordered a set and the rack. $800 shipped to my door. huge savings.

i see you're in orange. i'm up in West LA, i'll hit you up privately if you want to go out for a ride.

david

hey david, yea i;m up for a ride, i have the gs and another smaller enduro for the tougher rougher trails. email me here [email protected]

i like my panniers, they are great, i received the top case yesterday from brooks, i will be installing it on my gs and making another video for it.

i think the price savings deserves a video!... $1500 for panniers is PURE RIPP OFF. the top case i got was $299.
 

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These look like a knock-off of the Touratech panniers who, by the way, make the BMW brand hard cases for the Adventure. The size is listed as being different. I'm waiting on Touratech to ship my panniers as they've been backordered. The Touratech representatives recently visited my BMW dealer and told them that the latest revision of their hard cases are an improved version with stronger and more water tight rim construction. I'll post up photos and my impressions when they're received and installed.
i would not label it, KNOCK OFF, i would say DIFFERENT.
knock off means same attachment method same design etc. these boxes are different.

yea touratech/bmw is cool but i just could not justify spending $1500 for the side and another $600+ for the top case. I was also being charged like $350 into lock cylinders...
$2100 for cases in my opinion is just too much, specially if you also depend on it to protect your bike in case you lay it down.
If you are a dealer and not paying for it, it may make sense to you but for buyers on budget... hmm... we look at it from a different angle.
i like my set and they are holding up fine!. i will post a video tomorrow about the top case and show my existing ones after 2 months+ of use!
 

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got mine yesterday, they are really nice. a bonus surprise is there is no hinge (they must have updated it), as it has a lockset front and back, just like all the others panniers, so the top can come completely off.

big difference between $1500 and $800. they're aluminum panniers that i expect to get dinged up, scratched et all. quality seems decent enough. not surprised someone jumped on this opportunity to offer a more affordable version as it's just aluminum, some plastic and a lockset. these things aren't rocket science.


x7289155, cool, i'll hit you up. i also have a klx250s for the more offroad stuff too.
seriously? mine has a hinge.
btw they are stainless steel not aluminum.
stainless steel is much more expensive, sturdy, and can handle harsh environmental conditions.
 

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