These spy photos appear to show the upcoming BMW R 1300 GS in an early prototype form, ahead of the bike's expected release. What's changed?
Me too. I had an R850R many years ago. Always thought that would have been a great GS bike.
For owners that use them off the pavement I would completely agree but even the newest 1250GS gives up a lot to bikes like the V4S Multistrada when used to travel long miles to twisty road fun. Maybe BMW feels that they have that covered with the S1000XR but to me it's just not the same. That bike just feels soulless to me and lacks the grunt of the R engine that makes it so easy to ride.Not many GS owners would say "I want more power". Most, include myself, would say "make the bike lighter".
Yeah, the 850's are not boxers and they weigh 496 lbs dry. It's simply a smaller displacement bike. A 1300 isn't giving much more useable power over a 1250. Why pursue it? It's a more marketing bullshit and comparing dick sizes in a CC arms race.
I'll keep my 1200 GSA, but I'm not giving up the 85" TV. If we had the room, my wife would insist on an even bigger one.The mantra 'bigger is better' is a marketing strategy in our current society, iPhone 1,2,3, Max etc., TV's ever increasing sizes, truck towing capacities and so on. Including the Harley Davidson engine size increases over the years.
BMW has done it before when they shaved 70lbs off the new R1200GS compared to the outgoing R1150GS. It can be done. But it would require looking critically at every part of the current big boxers to come up with a lighter R850GS. A big up front investment and at the same time abandoning what they have invested into the inferior parallel twin line which probably has a good profit margin with its Chinese engine and other cheap components. Yes, it should be done and I would buy it, but unlikely to happen. My hexhead weighs 505lbs with a full tank (not counting crash bars) so I’ll stick with that for now.Yesssss!! R850GS, a bit smaller, a lot lighter and still keep the final shaft drive.
The XR certainly has BMW covered in the performance minded buyers of this segment. I have found it to be anything but soulless. The grin that gets plastered on my face as that engine howls, and screams is uncontrollable. Same when the roads get very tight, as the XR transitions so quickly and easily. It's an upright sportbike, and is superior to the V4s in handling and being significantly lighter than the V4S, I would say it's quicker as well. The new XR is nice and smooth now as well, making it more comfortable than the old XR. The XR has tons of grunt that after 6,000 rpm is transformed into a force that tries to pull your arms right off your torso. The difference is the XR wants you to use the RPM band, and the GS does not care. The transmission and shift assist pro are sublime on the XR and well suited for technical roads, and the GS transmission and shift assist pro do not perform as well.Personally, I'd love to see them return to an HP Enduro version of the bike. 21" front wheel, upgraded suspension, and drop as much weight as they can. I'm not sure how that makes any sense on the flagship bike used by its owners as more for road trip touring than getting it's tires dirty. But I promised myself that I'd never own another motorcycle that weighed more than 600 lbs and it's getting increasingly easy over the past few years to get there on a GS.
For owners that use them off the pavement I would completely agree but even the newest 1250GS gives up a lot to bikes like the V4S Multistrada when used to travel long miles to twisty road fun. Maybe BMW feels that they have that covered with the S1000XR but to me it's just not the same. That bike just feels soulless to me and lacks the grunt of the R engine that makes it so easy to ride.