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The WunderLINQ by Black Box Embedded

Hi, my name is Keith Conger, co-owner of Black Box Embedded. My business partner, Wayne Black and I just launched a Kickstarter campaign introducing our new BMW motorcycle accessory called WunderLINQ. WunderLINQ is a plug and play system that gives the rider full control of their smartphone via BMW’s multi-controller. Control of a smartphones navigation, media and communication functions all while riding without the rider removing their hands from the handlebars. WunderLINQ provides the rider with substantially greater functionality over the OEM navigation system at a significantly lower cost.

WunderLINQs major features include:
  • BMW multi-controller ‘Wonder Wheel’ to control your smartphone
  • Companion WunderLINQ smartphone app to efficiently manage key smartphone features while riding;
  • User selected navigation
  • Trip and waypoint logging
  • User selected media/music control
  • BMW motorcycle running data with optional data logging
  • BMW fault decoding with audible/visual alerts (Over 35)
  • Video/Photo Recording, use your phone as an action cam
  • Physical smartphone mounting to BMW GPS prep, propriety magnet or RAM
  • 5W smartphone charger
If anyone is in the Colorado Springs or Bay area and would like an in-person demo, PM me

Recording of the Live Demo and QA from 8/4/2018

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This looks like a winner, to date probably the single most useful device that I've seen come out for these bikes (integrating your phone to the bike).
Funny that me and friend were talking yesterday about how much better/clearer our phone screens were to see (except in bright sunlight) and how much easier it was to view things like Google Maps on the phone than on our Nav-VI's, the drawback being primarily that the the phones (Galaxy S9) touchscreen is not glove friendly, this device solves that.

One thing that I primarily use and have displayed 75% of the time is the Motorcycle Data page, on the Nav-VI you can have up 16 items, on this app it only shows 8, I am wondering if that can be expanded upon?

It would also be nice to know how various phones screens perform in bright sunlight, I know that my phone works very well except in bright sunlight in which case it's almost unusable, my dark tinted face-shield also has a pretty negative effect.
 

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This looks like a winner, to date probably the single most useful device that I've seen come out for these bikes (integrating your phone to the bike).
Funny that me and friend were talking yesterday about how much better/clearer our phone screens were to see (except in bright sunlight) and how much easier it was to view things like Google Maps on the phone than on our Nav-VI's, the drawback being primarily that the the phones (Galaxy S9) touchscreen is not glove friendly, this device solves that.

One thing that I primarily use and have displayed 75% of the time is the Motorcycle Data page, on the Nav-VI you can have up 16 items, on this app it only shows 8, I am wondering if that can be expanded upon?

It would also be nice to know how various phones screens perform in bright sunlight, I know that my phone works very well except in bright sunlight in which case it almost unusable, my dark tinted face-shield also has a pretty negative effect.
Hi,

We do plan on adding grid customization to the Motorcycle Data display and dashboard mode.

There are some phones now that have sunlight readable displays, for others I recommend a matte screen protector. We are looking into designing a universal sun shade too.
 

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Thank goodness someone is attempting to produce a "smart" alternative to the garmin user hostile Hobson's Choice!

some questions please, fully realizing it's a work in progress.

Will the phone be dependent on cellular access or will it redraw maps from the phone's gps antenna? In your video it doesn't look like there'd be cellular coverage there.

Will user configurability allow a configuration with a big "box" for digital readout of speedo and multiple smaller boxes for bike data?

Will all available bike data be available for display, eg, range, voltage output, miles to next service, etc?

Will there be more than one screen of user config data available to show different collections of parameters?

How does your "black box" device "talk" to the bike? Wired? LIN-BUS? Bluetooth?

How will this play with a Sena, Cardo headsets? Bluetooth via the phone or some other way?

At your convenience and thanks for the work!!

John
 

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Hi,

See my answers in RED, let me know if you have any more.

Thanks for your support!

Keith
Thank goodness someone is attempting to produce a "smart" alternative to the garmin user hostile Hobson's Choice!

some questions please, fully realizing it's a work in progress.

Will the phone be dependent on cellular access or will it redraw maps from the phone's gps antenna? In your video it doesn't look like there'd be cellular coverage there.

This is dependant on the Navigation software you choose to run on the phone, but most even google maps will work without a cellular connection.

Will user configurability allow a configuration with a big "box" for digital readout of speedo and multiple smaller boxes for bike data?

Grid configuration is planned after the initial release along with Dash mode to mimic the TFT on newer bikes.

Will all available bike data be available for display, eg, range, voltage output, miles to next service, etc?

Yes and logged. We also have decoded 30+ faults :)

Will there be more than one screen of user config data available to show different collections of parameters?

Hmm, this hasn't been suggested by any of our testers. I'm going to add that to bug/enhancement tracker.

How does your "black box" device "talk" to the bike? Wired? LIN-BUS? Bluetooth?

It talks the same way as the OEM Nav, through the cradle pins. We use BLE to communicate with your smartphone. USB is strictly for power.

How will this play with a Sena, Cardo headsets? Bluetooth via the phone or some other way?

It works as it would without a WunderLINQ. I personally use a Chatterbox X1slim.

At your convenience and thanks for the work!!

John
 

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It looks like you're going to have a winner here. What's the specific differences between the Commuter vs the Adventurer models of the product?

If I have a mapping app that supports tracks on my phone, can I access it from the wheel/device?

Thanks!

Wes
 

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Hi Wes,

The only difference is that the enclosure will be anodized, machined Aluminum and will include a RAM ball mount. It's a variation we're trying to gauge interest on. We may never make more after Kickstarter if the demand isn't there.

What app are you using, and is it Android or iOS? I'll check it out. The WunderLINQ acts as a generic keyboard, so we can control a lot out of the box on Android.

Thanks for your interest, please let me know if you have any other questions.
Keith


It looks like you're going to have a winner here. What's the specific differences between the Commuter vs the Adventurer models of the product?

If I have a mapping app that supports tracks on my phone, can I access it from the wheel/device?

Thanks!

Wes
 

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Hi Wes,

The only difference is that the enclosure will be anodized, machined Aluminum and will include a RAM ball mount. It's a variation we're trying to gauge interest on. We may never make more after Kickstarter if the demand isn't there.

What app are you using, and is it Android or iOS? I'll check it out. The WunderLINQ acts as a generic keyboard, so we can control a lot out of the box on Android.

Thanks for your interest, please let me know if you have any other questions.
Keith
It's an iOS phone. I haven't put it to much use as a nav solution but the apps I have tried (and liked) are Earthmate (the Garmin/Inreach app, I have the Inreach Explorer as well) and an app called MapOut that supports track files.

Control just for zooming in and out on the map would just about be worth the price of admission for your product.

I'm not married to any particular app on my phone but I do quite a lot of riding off the pavement using GPX track files I've loaded into my Garmin. Having an app that permits downloaded maps and track overlays is part of my minimum requirement for ADV riding.

Have you considered a solution where I continue to use my BMW Nav device and have your device on a separate Garmin cradle on a RAM mount? Or vice versa. There's been plenty of times when I would have really liked to have both my phone and the GPS in my field of view.

Thanks again for answering the questions!

Wes
 

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Hi Wes,

I'll try out those apps. Unfortunately, iOS keyboard support is lacking and they require developers to implement the keyboard controls, Android, on the other hand, implements it system-wide. If they don't support keyboard input, I'll try reaching out to them.

Your the second person to ask for the ability to run a Nav unit and WUnderLINQ at the same time. It's something we hadn't considered.

Keep the questions and thoughts coming, we want to be the Anti-Garmin. You know responsive and listen to user feedback. :)

Thanks,
Keith


It's an iOS phone. I haven't put it to much use as a nav solution but the apps I have tried (and liked) are Earthmate (the Garmin/Inreach app, I have the Inreach Explorer as well) and an app called MapOut that supports track files.

Control just for zooming in and out on the map would just about be worth the price of admission for your product.

I'm not married to any particular app on my phone but I do quite a lot of riding off the pavement using GPX track files I've loaded into my Garmin. Having an app that permits downloaded maps and track overlays is part of my minimum requirement for ADV riding.

Have you considered a solution where I continue to use my BMW Nav device and have your device on a separate Garmin cradle on a RAM mount? There's been plenty of times when I would have really liked to have both my phone and the GPS in my field of view.

Thanks again for answering the questions!

Wes
 

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WunderLINQ Live Demo and QA

Live Demo and QA on 8/4/2018 12PM Eastern Time

Heres your chance to see the WunderLINQ in action. A live demo setup/functioning of WunderLINQ on a running bike. Features, mount options and comparisons vs the Nav5/6 followed by viewer Q&A. Subscribe at the link below for further details and to submit early questions.


https://live.kickstarter.com/keith-conger-and-wayne-black/live/wunderlinq-live-demo-q-and-a


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Keith
 

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It mentioned on your web site that the Commuter is for paved roads and the Adventurer model is for "any road." Is that because of the security of the magnetic mount vs. the RAM mount for my phone. I do take my GS off into some gnarly paint shaker type situations so I just want to make sure I'm ordering the proper version.

I'm assuming both versions are relatively weather proof (well, as weather proof as say, my BMW Nav device?)

Thanks again for answering all our questions here!
 

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It mentioned on your web site that the Commuter is for paved roads and the Adventurer model is for "any road." Is that because of the security of the magnetic mount vs. the RAM mount for my phone. I do take my GS off into some gnarly paint shaker type situations so I just want to make sure I'm ordering the proper version.

I'm assuming both versions are relatively weather proof (well, as weather proof as say, my BMW Nav device?)

Thanks again for answering all our questions here!
Hi GrayBeard,

You are correct, it has to do with included RAM ball mount and the CNC enclosure that could be run over by a truck :) Yes, both are weatherproof.

Thanks and keep the questions coming!

Keith
 

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Live Demo and QA on 8/4/2018 12PM Eastern Time

Heres your chance to see the WunderLINQ in action. A live demo setup/functioning of WunderLINQ on a running bike. Features, mount options and comparisons vs the Nav5/6 followed by viewer Q&A. Subscribe at the link below for further details and to submit early questions.


https://live.kickstarter.com/keith-conger-and-wayne-black/live/wunderlinq-live-demo-q-and-a


Thanks
Keith
In case you guys missed today's live demo and QA we've posted a recording here.

Here are a few clips from that live demo.
WunderLINQ Mounting Options

WunderLINQ Usage

WunderLINQ Charging
 

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Looks great. Cant believe it took this long for someone to create an app that does basically the same thing as our Navigation units. Looking forward to hearing more.
 

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Gs-911 usb obd-ii??

This looks and sounds like a great addition, too bad I spent the bucks on the Garmin VI on my 2018 GSA w/TFT. I know nothing about the integration of this design and how it talks with the brains of this bike. What I wonder is, are you able to talk to the brains and do things that are handled with the HEX Code GS-911 via the OBD-II port? If it were capable to handle some of the maint resetting and service work that would make this addition even more valuable. Will it integrate with the TFT for media with a Sena 20S or bypass the TFT BT integration?

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This looks and sounds like a great addition, too bad I spent the bucks on the Garmin VI on my 2018 GSA w/TFT. I know nothing about the integration of this design and how it talks with the brains of this bike. What I wonder is, are you able to talk to the brains and do things that are handled with the HEX Code GS-911 via the OBD-II port? If it were capable to handle some of the maint resetting and service work that would make this addition even more valuable. Will it integrate with the TFT for media with a Sena 20S or bypass the TFT BT integration?

Thanks,
jeff
Hi Jeff,

We use the same interface as the Garmin VI so it's much more limited than maintenance port. The interface does allow some data to be written back to the bike like resetting trip and consumption data. We haven't yet explored what else can be done but it is on the todo list. We would love it if we discovered the ability to reset the service reminder :)

We have not yet tested on a TFT GS yet. But its high on our priority list.

If anyone has a TFT GS and are near Colorado Springs or the Bay area of California please PM me.

Keith
 
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