I think the most important point of this discussion is as follows:I agree withexharley Rider.
Get the the model that talks to you. They are great Motorcycles and I’m lucky to own one. I preferred the GSA model you can put less fuel for weight savings. Add a couple parts here and there if you wish but just ride it and you’ll be like the community knows wow how balanced this big girl is.
I think the same way.I traded out of a '12 GS for a 1290 KTM. Reason? Larger gas tank, great performance. As much as I liked the bike, the extra weight due to the larger tank became an issue for me on the usual roads I ride. I thought the larger tank would be a benefit, and it would for the longer distance tours, but 80-90% of my riding were shorter routes. A motorcycle tour of Sicily on a rented GS (not a GSA) made me realize that the GS is the better overall bike for me. YMMV, but the basic GS provides a better platform for the riding I do. Longer trips? I can add additional fuel cells on my 18 GS to make up the difference in gas volume.
I have ridden several GSAs and they are great bikes - whatever works for you is fine by me.
If you are going to places not on the map, both a 1200GS and GSA are poor choices.If one was to take a fully loaded GS or a GSA for a 4 week trip, the net result would be two very heavy ( read as hard to pick up) motorcycles. I am NOT saying the GSA is better than the GS nor am I saying the GS is better than the GSA. What I am saying is that riding a motorcycle is about more than loading one with 200 pounds of gear and heading out for places not on a map.
So now that I have solved the decades long question, Only one bike remains. THE MIGHTY GS!
can you tell I am bored and have nothing to do? Did I just stir the pot? Looking forward to lots of replies imputing my character!
That's the same reason I bought the GS. I didn't want those crash bars, lights or pannier brackets. I wanted those things just not the ones that came with the GSA.Down here in Oz.... when bought a new GSA1200 in 2018.. I looked at GS 1200. Add crash bars and lights to a GS1200.. and it cost more than a GSA. No brainer really.
You mean like this?If you are going to places not on the map, both a 1200GS and GSA are poor choices.
Adventure bikes get oversold, real dualsports have their place when the fire road turns to sloppy two track.
When you get right down to it, other than look and maybe higher shocks, there is no significant difference. WAIT... hear me out. Since we have time now to discuss, lets do so.
Ok, like I said for all intents and purposes there is no difference. Consider the following:
TAKE your GS, you add, 27 to 32 pounds of protective scaffolding, wires, lights etc , if both bikes have the same amount of gas, I think they would be so close in actual weight that one would not be able to feel the different in weight either picking ip up or riding.
here in Africa petrol stations are far apart so we go with the adventures but downfall is the gsa wind flow is shitter lots of turbulent heat
land looks better
I agree with your comment, it is all skills and experience. My comment was around newer riders where the marketing brochure shows capabilities that take years to master...hence I think large ADV bikes get oversold.With some skill and accepting that you should ride a big ADV bike differently than a dirt bike, you can take a GS/GSA 2,000 miles from home on the road and then roam around some pretty gnarly high passes in the Rockies; and then ride it back home again.
I think a lot hinges on whether you ride solo or in a group. For sure you can mount an ATV winch to the back of a GS to drag it out...but it is easier on a lighter bike. Then again, a lighter bike sucks at 80mph on the 4-lane slab compared to a GS.Then again, we are not a lot using their GS's close to their full off-road capacity