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Pairing Cardo PackTalk or SmartPack to BMW Factory Bluetooth Audio Equipment

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#1 ·
Hello, everyone! I wanted to share some helpful information concerning linking a Cardo scala rider PackTalk or SmartPack up to the BMW factory audio package. As most of you may know, BMW has configured their audio software to only work properly with BMW audio equipment. This method has proven to be a useful workaround for BMW riders who do not want to use only BMW intercom products.

Enjoy!


Pairing Cardo scala rider PackTalk or SmartPack to BMW BT Audio Systems:

· Leave bike ignition in OFF position (no power to bike system)

· Pair any desired Bluetooth device (Phone/GPS/Etc.) to Bluetooth Channel 1 (In Standby, press and hold “Mobile” button on headset until red/blue flashing, then scan for headset on the desired device)

· Once Bluetooth Channel 1 successfully pairs to device, power up the BMW system by turning the ignition key

· Put the headset in pairing mode for Bluetooth Channel 2 (In Standby, press and hold “Audio” button until red/blue flashing). This is the small triangle button on the face of the headset.

· Within the Bluetooth Menu on the BMW, select “Helmet 1”, and have it search for a headset.

· PACKTALK/SMARTPACK will show up on the bike’s menu shortly, select it.

· The bike will pair with the headset and automatically begin streaming music shortly thereafter (sometimes instantly, sometimes after a short wait).

Headset is now successfully paired.

Startup sequence (everything off):

· Turn on PACKALK/SMARTPACK headset first, then power up the bike.

· Bike will search for and find headset after a period of time, at which point the music will automatically begin streaming to headset.

Note: If connection is not made and/or music does not automatically start after a period of 30 seconds, toggle the bike’s audio system to play through the bike’s speakers, then back to the headset- this will initiate playback in headset.

Note: Only “Helmet 1” will pair to a non-BMW headset, “Helmet 2” will not.

Note: The headset must be close to the bike when pairing, testing playback. The Bluetooth signal coming from the bike is VERY short range and will break up if the headset get further than where the rider’s head would be.
 
#2 ·
Are you aware of an issue with the BMW Navigator V where you will be in the middle of telephone call and both parties start to hear an echo of their own voice only? It's done this for me with the Q1, G9x, and Smartpack.

I also tried several other phones and the same issue. It's paired exactly how BMW (Garmin) say to pair it.

I believe the issue is 100% on the BMW (Garmin) side but they have been absolutely useless and I have been sending them the bluetooth debug logs from the Navigator V for months.
 
#8 · (Edited)
Hello, everyone! I wanted to share some helpful information concerning linking a Cardo scala rider PackTalk or SmartPack up to the BMW factory audio package. As most of you may know, BMW has configured their audio software to only work properly with BMW audio equipment. This method has proven to be a useful workaround for BMW riders who do not want to use only BMW intercom products.

Enjoy!.
Hello

My set is Packtalk + Samsung Galaxy Note8 + BMW TFT

In my case everything easily connect via bluetooth.

The media works, the phone calls appear on the TFT, pick up and disconnect the calls. However, during outgoing or incoming calls, I can not hear or be heard.

Can someone help me?
Regards
 
#9 ·
Dear Scala Rider,

please tell us without the new TFT screen the best way to connect your Packtalk kit to the Nav 6 and a phone.
Most of us here agree that it is best only to pair the headset to the Nav 6 and the Nav 6 to the phone.
Otherwise it will end up in echoes, both units ringing on incoming call with delays in answering the call and all other sorts of issues.
I set it up with both channels and even used the GPS setting on the Packtalk.

All help is appreciated.
 
#10 ·
Hello,

i have the same problem with the TFT and the smartpack, the problem is the pairing as GPS
but i haven't found no way to pair it as phone!

I have tryed it with a 10 Euro simply Bluetooth Headset and it works!!!

Anybody knows a way to pair the smartpack / packpack as phone with the BMW Connectivity TFT?

Any help is welcome!

Regard

Guenter
 
#11 ·
Hello,
i have the same problem with the TFT and the smartpack, the problem is the pairing as GPS
but i haven't found no way to pair it as phone!
Guenter
I understand that English is not your first language (same for me) but your comment makes little sense.
You can't connect it as a phone, as it isn't a phone. You can't use your microwave as a grill either.

Have a read through the forum (maybe a little introduction of yourself) and you probably find the answer, as it has been asked and explained before.

The Packtalk just had a major firmware upgrade and a new app is out as well.
Have you upgraded your Packtalk to 4.0 yet?
 
#12 ·
Thankx for your answer and sorry for my english.

I have a smartpack with the latest firmware i think 3.2.

The smartpack thing it pairs with a gps, maybe thats the reason why the phone doesn‘t work, it have to pair as a bluetooth headset ... again a simply uninteligent 10 Euro Bluetooth headset works!!

Yesterday i have a short test with a sena 10 S it works fine also with the phone function.

I have tried all ways that i found and the result is always the same connected as GPS and it doesn‘t work for phone calls, music and navigation works fine.

Has anybody a BMW Connectivity TFT with a scala smartpack which works with music, nacigation and phone functions?

Thankx
 
#13 ·
I have a smartpack with the latest firmware i think 3.2.
The latest Firmware is 4.0
You may want to upgrade the unit first.
Also reset it to factory settings.
Follow the instruction, as you can connect the Packtalk as an Intercom system and also have the additional GPS system setting.
The system works fine (BMW Nav and TFT is another story), but you set it up wrong.
 
#21 · (Edited)
Hello,
I joust bought Pactalk Bold.

I have IPhone with Spotify, BMW with TFT, and Pactalk Bold updated to 4.2 firmware.

I connectected devices in order:
a) IPhone to Pactalk as Phone 2
b) IPhone to TFT
c) TFT to Pactalk as Phone 1


And not working ....

What problems I have:
1. Keys and commands as "music stop, music on" dosen't works
2. If turn "Radio on" by keys on Cardo, I still lisen the music in backgroud - it dosen't stoped.
3. If i choose "PACTALK" device on Spotify as output, I don't hear anything. I MUST set ICC6.5 in as aoutput
4. I don't know how call Siri - key on Cardo dosen't work.

Main problem is that buttons on CArdo not working - in my opinion is much easier to control music from Cardo than from TFT.

I don't have another Navi to connect.

Any ideas, how should I connect this devices to work proper together ?

Regards
Kuba
 
#22 ·
Hello,
I also recently bought Pactalk Bold.

I have IPhone with Spotify, BMW with TFT, and Pactalk Bold updated to 4.2 firmware.

Before Connecting Devices, Remove The pairing on your Iphone and Packtalk Bold.

after which I connectected the devices in order:
a) IPhone to TFT as mobile device
b) Packtalk Bold to TFT as Rider Helmet 1

it is either you let the tft control your phone and music or you let your phone control the packtalk bold by pairing it directly to each other.
as with my experience, you cannot pair the phone and packtalk bold the pair the devices again to your tft. that is where your problems are coming from.
 
#25 ·
Just seeing if anyone else has had this problem. I have a NAV V, iPhone X and PackTalk DUO. Bike is an RT so no TFT. I can pair the iPhone to the PackTalk. I can Pair the NAV V to the PackTalk. However I can’t connect the two at the same time to the PackTalk? Whenever you connect one it disconnects the other. When I sync the NAV V it deletes the Bluetooth configuration on the iPhone. Ideally I would like to have both paired to the PackTalk as I listen to podcasts/Spotify on my phone. Would like to get directions from the NAV V when I am travelling. Any help appreciated.