Just did a 1500 mile ride in the west on a brand new 1300gs trophy. Dealer prep miles on it. Combination of dirt and asphalt. This is all my opinion of what I think is everything bad about this bike.
On the asphalt:
The adaptive cruise is not good when riding with other motorcycles. Maybe among cars it would be ok. It is very abrupt to speed up or slow down when it senses the distance. If you aren't directly behind another motorcycle it has no idea it is there. Very narrow field of view. Disabled it and like every other electronic annoyance it defaults back on when you start the bike again.
Collision control. Had an "oh sh$t" moment when I went to get a run to pass a car. You know, start gaining speed before pulling out to pass. Collision control activated and cut the throttle just before I pulled out.
Seat is horrible. My opinion, thanks.
Hand constantly numb and tingling. Don't know if the thing is buzzing, throttle is stiff to turn, etc, but I tried everything to keep it from happening with no luck other than let go and shake it out.
Back to the passing. Frankly, I think my 1250 roll on power will spank the 1300. Shift cam maybe? Felt like I always needed to drop it a gear or two to get past a car.
One up/down button on left controls several features so you have to go into menu, select that feature, and then use the up or down button. Sounds good and I see what they are doing but eh.
On the dirt:
Suspension sucks. Dialed all the damping settings to -2 just to get it to keep the rear on the ground on washboard/rough dirt roads. Never tried +2 but I suspect it would be like riding a jackhammer or having all the traction control activated. I believe the -2 should be the 0/base setting and go from there. Dirt tires on bike. Wasn't a traction problem other than the tire not in contact with the ground.
Overall the motor is good and smooth. Shifting is not as good as my 1250 and it started missing gears as the miles added up. I'm not even trying to talk myself out of getting the 1300. I just had a very long test ride on and off road and even if the price was 15k I wouldn't buy this bike. Things are familiar on it but it is a totally different bike and won't be for me.
Those are the biggest things I recall were a daily annoyance. Nice bike and probably great for some but 30k is starting to feel a little out of control for these things and I prefer how the 1250 works so well in the same conditions.
On the asphalt:
The adaptive cruise is not good when riding with other motorcycles. Maybe among cars it would be ok. It is very abrupt to speed up or slow down when it senses the distance. If you aren't directly behind another motorcycle it has no idea it is there. Very narrow field of view. Disabled it and like every other electronic annoyance it defaults back on when you start the bike again.
Collision control. Had an "oh sh$t" moment when I went to get a run to pass a car. You know, start gaining speed before pulling out to pass. Collision control activated and cut the throttle just before I pulled out.
Seat is horrible. My opinion, thanks.
Hand constantly numb and tingling. Don't know if the thing is buzzing, throttle is stiff to turn, etc, but I tried everything to keep it from happening with no luck other than let go and shake it out.
Back to the passing. Frankly, I think my 1250 roll on power will spank the 1300. Shift cam maybe? Felt like I always needed to drop it a gear or two to get past a car.
One up/down button on left controls several features so you have to go into menu, select that feature, and then use the up or down button. Sounds good and I see what they are doing but eh.
On the dirt:
Suspension sucks. Dialed all the damping settings to -2 just to get it to keep the rear on the ground on washboard/rough dirt roads. Never tried +2 but I suspect it would be like riding a jackhammer or having all the traction control activated. I believe the -2 should be the 0/base setting and go from there. Dirt tires on bike. Wasn't a traction problem other than the tire not in contact with the ground.
Overall the motor is good and smooth. Shifting is not as good as my 1250 and it started missing gears as the miles added up. I'm not even trying to talk myself out of getting the 1300. I just had a very long test ride on and off road and even if the price was 15k I wouldn't buy this bike. Things are familiar on it but it is a totally different bike and won't be for me.
Those are the biggest things I recall were a daily annoyance. Nice bike and probably great for some but 30k is starting to feel a little out of control for these things and I prefer how the 1250 works so well in the same conditions.
