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I’m a member of a KLR forum, they started an active thread with a lot of solid feedback on the benefits of what paid training can provide. Won’t go through all that, if interested you likely are/have already been researching expectations for money spent. Sharing this and the link below as the fellow did an excellent job of reinforcing my limiting mental factor of riding and how professional training broke through the training wall I hit decades back. It was an early Shane watts training class that fixed my brain.

This is likely the most succinct videos I’ve seen in line with my previous comments of “fear” being our limiting factor. Fear isn’t the most descriptive word applicable, rather an element of “our” limiting factor of getting in the way of the machine working underneath us.

plus I was in tears with his statement of “may not get us out of the situation but it will end the suspense”.


Chassis design should be used not fought
 
I have and do it every time I get a new ride. Lets me "flex" and adjust to the new bike in a safe environment.

In the same vein, any recommendations for off-road riding schools in Houston, San Antonio or Austin vicinity?
 
I switched motorcycles from a much smaller and lighter one to my current R1200 GS, and the difference is staggering! This is precisely what's making me consider additional training to further develop my riding skills, ultimately leading to safer driving for myself and other drivers. Although I consider myself a fairly conscientious rider, it never hurts to invest in our training and safety, especially when it comes to motorcycles. Here, in the region where I live, I discovered two places that offer this kind of "upgrade" to our motorcycle riding lives. The only drawback is that they offer very expensive courses, but investing in our lives cannot and should not be seen as an expense. I'll leave the links here for those who want to see them, but they're Portuguese sites, so if you want to read them, you already know...


 
In the past, I have taken and passed BMWMOA and MSF rider training and experienced rider training classes/seminars.
(My two son’s even completed these classes….FREE of charge!)
When completed students received a “certification” which was also used to notify your insurance company to receive a Discount on your Insurance!
Lately, I haven’t noticed (or researched) if BMW or local (Illinois) MSF affiliates offers these classes or seminars anymore. They were basically FREE, all you had to do was signup and Showup. MSF even had class room education along with actual “course traning/riding”.
Check your local colleges for these classes/training.
 
I had a 13 year hiatus from riding, and then bought a used 1200GS last November. I took the MSF ERC class in May. My plan is to take a class every year or two. I also practice the slow speed stuff, but not as much as I should due to a very hot/humid July. I also bought the updated version of Proficient Motorcycling and read that. Finally, I have watched a lot of you tube videos.

I think training is important, especially as I get older and my vision and reflexes are not as good.
 
Professional instruction will be the best money anyone spends on their motorcycling interests. For riding big bikes off the pavement I can recommend the BMW off-road performance school in Greer SC. It was a real game changer for me coming from smaller bikes off road to the GS. If you join the BMW MOA you get a discount for the school. It's a first class operation.

I've also completed all four levels of the California Superbike School and been back as a repeat offender at L4. Even if you're not interested in attending track days in your future they'll fill you with riding technology that will make you a much safer rider on the street. It's mainly a cornering school but they have a catalog of hundreds of on track drills that will keep your mind way out ahead of your situation when riding.

Also, not to be overlooked, I've attended the Rider's Edge license certification courses twice. Both times one of my kids was going for their motorcycle license and I did the course with them. It was a fun reminder of how to maneuver a bike in tight spaces.
 
Advanced riders training over here in Germany. Good reminder to look at bad habits. Expert advice for emergency actions and low speed riding. Overall time and money well spent.
 
When I re-entered riding in my late 50's I spent a lot of time on forums and something that came through loud and clear is that my safety is all on me: expect nothing from anyone else, and have the skills to save my *ss if I need to. So I made a decision to attend at least one training session per year. So far (15 years) I've managed to do that.

Some have been better than others, to be sure, but slow speed skills and on-road courses are my favorites. Sometimes the ERC (BRC on my own bike) is the best I can do, I've done one track day which was informative but not worth repeating.
 
I'll give another endorsement to the BMW Performance Center training in Greer, SC. I just went through a customized version of their two day on road course to get us trained up for a week long trip in Greece next month. Very well worth the money spent and just a first rate experience all around. But be warned: not only was there the cost of the class but also the cost of the shiny new R1300GSA that is now in my garage as a side effect. So I will be heading back there next year for the two day off-road course. And, what the heck, I may just take the two day course for the four wheeled thingies too!
 
I have and do it every time I get a new ride. Lets me "flex" and adjust to the new bike in a safe environment.

In the same vein, any recommendations for off-road riding schools in Houston, San Antonio or Austin vicinity?
Yes. Look up Austin Moto Adventures in Burnet, TX. First class all the way. I’ve been there twice, they host the Texas Touratech rally, and I rode with them on a Big Bend adventure tour. I’ve been to 3 schools of this sort and Austin Moto is hands down the best.
 
I've been riding a variety of motorcycles for 45 years and never took any training until a few years ago. Now I take a class every other year just to refresh my skills. Both the BMW MOA and my local club (www.wsbmwr.org) offer training rebates making the final cost very reasonable.

Cheers,
Marco in Burien, WA
 
I would rent their bikes for the class. I own a 2016 GSA and have taken two classes with Rawhyde (intro and intro plus), as well as taken one of their tours. I will likely take my bike on the next tour with them. Great organization and a class act.
Mike
 
I try to take a class every year to hone skills and keep bad habits from reforming.

I have done
Motomark1 Maximum control 1 and 2
Motomark1 Intro to ADV riding
Bret Tkacs Adventure Riding 2 day course in GA
BMW Performance School 2 day offroad class

I was also a MSF instructor for many years in college

Taking D.A.R.T. level 2 and 3 this weekend in Uwharrie, NC

I always learn something.
 
As I learned in Special Forces, all training and skills are perishable. I was told I wouldn't walk for six months once and pronounced Expectant to Die another time from separate motorcycle wrecks. I kept taking training courses hoping to find out if one would remind me of what happened the time I lost seven days of memory. Although I was a former Motor Officer, my brain injury erased whatever happened to me and it never has returned. However, I became addicted to the training and I've taken all of MotoMark1's courses, BMW two-day off-road and authority courses, police courses in NC and MO, Alconbury Driving Centre (UK police trainers) RideSafe and Skid-bike Course as well as numerous others, more than twenty in all. Never regretted a dollar spent on training and neither has my wife. While expensive, the BMW Performance Center in South Carolina is second to none in their facilities, courses, instructors and professionalism.

My goal is to get others to understand the value of training in my short course so they go on to the real professionals. I can't say enough about Mark Brown, former North Carolina Highway Patrol Motor Officer Trainer and he is the most focused of all course instructors I've had in ensuring you get the training that will get you home safely. Some other courses are sometimes oriented to making you faster on the road or track or off-road. Lee Parks is an outstanding instructor and I think I've done all his courses, including his 'Mancation', a memorable week where we did trials, highways, shooting and more. These courses all help you stay alive and better hone your skills, but there is a difference.

I was disappointed that others didn't see the value of training as every course I took made me better every time so I developed my own course, B.E.T. Your Life. Mainly oriented at beginning riders, I cover the Bike, Equipment (protective rider gear), and most importantly, Training. Training may prevent you having to employ your ABS on your Bike or use your protective padding in your Equipment. I also train individuals on both country, gravel, backroads (seems some urban areas have no gravel roads left in their county now) as well as on road. I'm just in the early, beginning stages of developing my 'motorcycle retreat' where you can camp and ride in the Ozark Mountains of Missouri, shoot, fish, or just sit around the campfire and talk motorcycles. As Mark says in his instruction, I teach you 'A' way, not necessarily the only way, but A way so you can combine your experiences and previous training and see what works out best for you.

Hope I haven't hijacked the thread. I just wanted to show how passionate I am about training, perhaps because I've come so close to death multiple times. I'm not looking for business, just take the opportunity to educate where I get a chance. My way of giving back.

Dannyleo
Let's settle this the old-fashioned Navy way, first guy to die; loses.

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Former Action Guy
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Motorcycle Officer
Firefighter
Paramedic
Been there, done that, got the t-shirt, then got too fat to wear it. :(
Motorcycled to the Arctic Ocean North of Prudhoe Bay.
Stood on the Artic ice, said, "Been there, done that."
Turned around and drove straight to Key West, Southernmost Point in the US.
I didn't have any room for t-shirts on that little 13,500 mile journey
 
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