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Conversion from fuel strip sensor to float without converter box as permanent fix - oil cooled bikes

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UPDATE (12/24/2022): I was able to solve the calibration problem with the new float sensor. The accuracy is now very good, but I believe the fuel tank on the 2010+ R1200GSA must be shaped slightly differently. Previously, the fuel level would go from 100% to around 75%, then start heading back up again, after completing the modification. I took the tank back out and measured the resistance of the new float sensor, which is 4 to 88 Ohms. Also, with a 10-turn potentiometer, I measured the bike's reported fuel level (from the computer / ECU side) to be empty (warning light) at 82 Ohms and 100% full at 16 Ohms.

Further investigation revealed that the problem is mechanical, not electrical or software. The metal wire "arm" of the float sensor is not quite the right shape. It actually hits on the bottom of the tank and can't clear the transfer tube either. It needs to be bent up to clear both.

With some trial and error, I was able to bend the wire arm into a shape that gives a pretty accurate reading of the fuel level from 100% down to 0%. For the most part, you only need to bend the arm "up" (to a tighter angle), as shown in this picture (red line is the approximately original shape):

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--------------------- Original Instructions ---------------------

Just wanted to let you know that I did the conversion from the defective fuel strip sensor to the float potentiometer sensor on my (newly acquired) 2008 R1200GSA with electronic suspension (ESA).

I followed the instructions at this UK GS forum: Instructions

One word of warning, the English at this British forum is barely comprehensible to me. As a result, it took all day to complete, but it worked without a problem.

The parts you need are float sensor 16148554065, a OBD Solutions MX+ Bluetooth adapter and OBD port cable adapter and the MotoScan ultimate app.

Remember to remove the old fuel strip sensor, which hooks on to a metal hanger that is suspended from the gas cap inlet area.

Loop the two blue wires from the new float around something, as pictured, so that they won't touch the float, or your reading could be affected.

Also, when you insert the new fuel pump/float assembly, the float will get lodged between the tank and the fuel transfer hose in the tank bottom. You'll need to then use a hook or long screwdriver to pull the float up and free.

UPDATE (12/24/2022): It is necessary to bend the wire "arm" of the new float sensor up to clear the tank bottom and the transfer hose. See the instructions at the top of this post. Otherwise, the fuel reading will stop at ~75% and never go any lower.

You must fully remove the tank to do the work because the ZFE computer wiring harness is under the tank, and you need to swap the pins. The instructions aren't clear, but the connector with the pins to swap is the upper one with the fatter wiring bundle.

To remove the inner wiring pin holders from the ZFE harness, you need to remove the top shell cover. To do this, carefully pry the back and front corners of the cover's flange up with a small screwdriver while sliding the shell forward. Do this successively in both sides until it is free.

I'm not sure if it's necessary to first clear the fuel strip fault with the resistor network pictured below, as is the case with the preobeemer.nl signal converter, but I did it anyway just in case. I doubt it's necessary, however because you are deactivating the fuel strip during programming.

Please ask if there are any questions. I don't recommend doing this work unless you are pretty good with mechanics and electronics, however.

REMEMBER TO BEND THE WIRE ARM OF THE FUEL SENSOR UP BEFORE INSTALLATING! SEE INSTRUCTIONS AT THE TOP OF THIS POST.
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No, I did find it in the Google store. But it doesn't say if it free or how much and I did not try to download it because I am on a laptop.
€49.99
Thank you. I am getting a headache looking at all these expensive prices in Euros in the link you sent me, then add the shipping and figure out which adapter is the correct one....blue tooth, black tooth....etc.

I'll take mechanical things any day over all this app nonsense. I have a problem, I really HATE cell phones.
I do have an Android phone. So the obvious question is How much is it? And how much is the cable to attach it to the bike? I assume it will have usb plug at one end to plug into the Android phone ? This is why I hate this endless technology which keeps breaking down. Fuel floats did not do that.
Please stop for a moment and read this carefully: Worth noting the comment in the first post: “I don't recommend doing this work unless you are pretty good with mechanics and electronics, however.

You can bitch and piss a moan about the shitty fuel strip design all you want but it will not fix your bike. You need to slowly and carefully read this thread and decide if you have the technical skills and emotional fortitude to take it on. If not, you have three options:
  1. find a buddy with the skills and patience to help you through conversion to float (this forum cannot replace someone in your garage)
  2. Get a replacement fuel strip at a BMW dealership and hope it will last the length of your ownership experience.
  3. Sell the bike as-is and finish your pain and frustration
Sorry to be a little terse but agonizing over this won’t help you or anyone on the forum.
Thank you. I am getting a headache looking at all these expensive prices in Euros in the link you sent me, then add the shipping and figure out which adapter is the correct one....blue tooth, black tooth....etc.

I'll take mechanical things any day over all this app nonsense. I have a problem, I really HATE cell phones.
I believe you just said, “this fuel float conversion isn’t for me”.

No shame in walking away at times, we all have our limits.
Please stop for a moment and read this carefully: Worth noting the comment in the first post: “I don't recommend doing this work unless you are pretty good with mechanics and electronics, however.

You ban bitch and piss a moan about the shitty fuel strip design all you want but it will not fix your bike. You need to slowly and carefully read this thread and decide if you have the technical skills and emotional fortitude to take it on. If not, you have three options:
  1. find a buddy with the skills and patience to help you through conversion to float (this forum cannot replace someone in your garage)
  2. Get a replacement fuel strip at a BMW dealership and hope it will last the length of your ownership experience.
  3. Sell the bike as-is and finish your pain and frustration
Sorry to be a little terse but agonizing over this won’t help you or anyone on the forum.
I understand.

I've replaced 5 speed manual transmission on a classic BMW car before and did many other repairs. Did my own repairs for 25 yrs now.

It is NOT the electrical or mechanical things that try my patience, it is all this APP and phone stuff which no matter how much I try I can't stand. I was without a cell phone till few years ago and I was fine with it.

Sorry. I was hoping it would be something where you replace the float, calibrate it without all this app....etc.business. Then when all said and done, it doesn't sound as if it is accurate. Thanks.
From what I read, there is no float conversation that actually works and gives accurate gas level measurement.
I would beg to differ. I am getting accurate readings which I verified electrically and mechanically. Due to an apparent difference in tank shape, it was necessary to bend the float arm for my R1200GSA, but it is now as accurate as any float.

There isn't any magic here, the float is a potentiometer that reads between about 88 and 16 ohms and the bike directly translates that to a fuel level when the arm moves up and down.
Hi all and thanks for all the tips in this thread.
I have just converted my R1200GSA (early 2010) to float and with instructions from
here and on the ukgser forum and everything worked great. My motorcycle lacks coding for "INDUCTIVE FUEL SENSOR" but it doesn't seem to matter. I just changed the Thermo Coupler FLS 08 to "Potentiometer", swop the pins in ZFE and everything worked. But I had to recalibrate the sensor as it only gave 73 ohms with an empty tank. So I re-angled the sensor (and twist it) the same way LosAlamosGS did and now I have 88 ohms on full tank and 4 ohms on empty. The float no longer catches the transfer hose like it did at first.
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Hi all and thanks for all the tips in this thread.
I have just converted my R1200GSA (early 2010) to float and with instructions from
here and on the ukgser forum and everything worked great. My motorcycle lacks coding for "INDUCTIVE FUEL SENSOR" but it doesn't seem to matter. I just changed the Thermo Coupler FLS 08 to "Potentiometer", swop the pins in ZFE and everything worked. But I had to recalibrate the sensor as it only gave 73 ohms with an empty tank. So I re-angled the sensor (and twist it) the same way LosAlamosGS did and now I have 88 ohms on full tank and 4 ohms on empty. The float no longer catches the transfer hose like it did at first.
4 ohms on full tank and 88 ohms on empty!!
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