[60Aviator]

I did - and agree - difficult, but manageable to install. It was also difficult to set the bead on the front. I agree with most of the riding comments, though mine would fall into turns when new. I was not confident at all on fresh marble gravel, but that might be my limited skills (and likely difficult on all mixed use tires...). I had a bit more confidence on pavement with the well-worn Anakee 3's that came on my bike (used 2017 gs), but the A3 noise was horrible. The road manners of the Missions have improved with age and they are wearing quite well. Overall, I'm happy with the Missions, but wonder if the Anakee Adventures are notably better/worse for what I do (mostly paved and dirt road / dry double track).

Ditto on the install and just requires a good technique to make it easier. 2 little things that help make things go well:
1. Don't forget to put some lube on the inside of the rim where the inside of the bead slides. Helps with pushing the bead down in the valley while mounting and then when you seat it with air as it slides out better.
2. I picked up one of those motorcycle tire warmers like racers use and wished I had done that years ago! I use to put them out in the sun or in the truck with the windows up but that takes a while.

So far these are my mileage kings and have lasted longer than any tire I have tried so far.

 

[JJet]

I did - and agree - difficult, but manageable to install. It was also difficult to set the bead on the front. I agree with most of the riding comments, though mine would fall into turns when new. I was not confident at all on fresh marble gravel, but that might be my limited skills (and likely difficult on all mixed use tires...). I had a bit more confidence on pavement with the well-worn Anakee 3's that came on my bike (used 2017 gs), but the A3 noise was horrible. The road manners of the Missions have improved with age and they are wearing quite well. Overall, I'm happy with the Missions, but wonder if the Anakee Adventures are notably better/worse for what I do (mostly paved and dirt road / dry double track).

One my second set of Trailmax Mission's. Good tire, not much noise at all and wears much better than Anakee 3's.

 

[Scurvy]

If you are looking for a 50/50 tire, that inspires confidence off road, try the Bridgestone BattlAx Adventurecross AX41's. I rode them for about 8k and they performed well on paved roads and great in the dirt roads. Price point is much better then the Dunlop and Michelin. They are noisy, but that's what knobby tires do.
I will be putting another set on this spring.

Years ago I put a set of Battleaxes on my old 1150GS, and they (don’t recall which model) were such a let-down after a lot of positive comments that they permanently killed my interest/willingness to ever use Bridgestone tires on my GS again. Sure, things are improved, but I already had much better experience with other tires, and not surprisingly those tires are still completely solid tires (in the great online “Opinionator”) 16 years later. Yes, I do ride aggressively both on-road and off-road, so some might consider me extra picky, but my Bridgestone experience was a real bummer.

 

[Krons]

If you are looking for a 50/50 tire, that inspires confidence off road, try the Bridgestone BattlAx Adventurecross AX41's. I rode them for about 8k and they performed well on paved roads and great in the dirt roads. Price point is much better then the Dunlop and Michelin. They are noisy, but that's what knobby tires do.
I will be putting another set on this spring.

@Ryno23 I only got 3500 miles out of a AX41 knobby rear (1000 of that on slab) did you do better? I found it to be great on and off pavement but number of miles was a letdown. E-07+ has since been my 50/50 go to.

 

[GrayBeard]

One my second set of Trailmax Mission's. Good tire, not much noise at all and wears much better than Anakee 3's.

How many miles did you get out of your first set and what kind of riding? The miles are really piling up on mine but they still look like they've got another 2 - 3,000 mile ride in them.

 

[Ryno23]

@Ryno23 I only got 3500 miles out of a AX41 knobby rear (1000 of that on slab) did you do better? I found it to be great on and off pavement but number of miles was a letdown. E-07+ has since been my 50/50 go to.

I think I got about 7k out of my set. Maintained 36 psi and was 60% on slab. Mitas are a great tire. I didnt realize this, but Mitas website says it's a 60/40 tire.

			@Ryno23 I only got 3500 miles out of a AX41 knobby rear (1000 of that on slab) did you do better? I found it to be great on and off pavement but number of miles was a letdown. E-07+ has since been my 50/50 go to. Think I got close to 7K from my AX41. Love the Mitas for all around riding. Just looked at Mitas website and they call the EO-7+ a 60/40 tire. E-07+ Ideal for riders looking for a multifunctional adventure tire with the best mileage durability in its segment for on-road rides but still able to travel difficult off-road sections An excellent choice for long journeys around the globe when changing a tire in the middle of a trip is not an option Designed for 60% on-road and 40% off-road use

 

[Krons]

I think I got about 7k out of my set. Maintained 36 psi and was 60% on slab. Mitas are a great tire. I didnt realize this, but Mitas website says it's a 60/40 tire.

			Think I got close to 7K from my AX41. Love the Mitas for all around riding. Just looked at Mitas website and they call the EO-7+ a 60/40 tire. E-07+ Ideal for riders looking for a multifunctional adventure tire with the best mileage durability in its segment for on-road rides but still able to travel difficult off-road sections An excellent choice for long journeys around the globe when changing a tire in the middle of a trip is not an option Designed for 60% on-road and 40% off-road use

I'd agree with that, E-07+ front design isn't ideal off pavement. Lots of guys on other sites/forums rave on running a E-07+ rear and TKC80 front. Best of both worlds for traction and mileage for a off pavement combo.

 

[Ryno23]

Years ago I put a set of Battleaxes on my old 1150GS, and they (don’t recall which model) were such a let-down after a lot of positive comments that they permanently killed my interest/willingness to ever use Bridgestone tires on my GS again. Sure, things are improved, but I already had much better experience with other tires, and not surprisingly those tires are still completely solid tires (in the great online “Opinionator”) 16 years later. Yes, I do ride aggressively both on-road and off-road, so some might consider me extra picky, but my Bridgestone experience was a real bummer.

@Scurvy

 

[Xlntcfp]

@Ryno23 I only got 3500 miles out of a AX41 knobby rear (1000 of that on slab) did you do better? I found it to be great on and off pavement but number of miles was a letdown. E-07+ has since been my 50/50 go to.

I bought a set of Mitas E 07 again....couldn’t find a reasonable price on the other tires.

 

[Slow24]

You will get more miles out of the Dunlops then the Mitas. They might be more economical in the long run. I just read that RawHyde is using them on their rental fleet instead of Mitas which is a great tire.
I am putting on my third set of Dunlop Traile Max tomorrow which I have consistently gotten 10,000 miles from a set

 

[bmw_rider]

I just put on a set of the trailmax missions and rode mojave preserve.

All of the reviews call them a 50/50 tire that punches above their weight, don't believe the hype, they are 80/20 or 70/30 at best.

The good: zero noise on the highway, they are comfortable, smooth and handle well changing lanes, dodging potholes and tracking straight. In the rain the front is excellent and sticks to the road, you can feel the rear want to step out but if you ride like you should in the rain, a little extra careful, they wont. These are great on hardpack, dirt, shallow gravel, rocks, off camber, medium soft to hard ground surface. If you're riding fire roads they'll do everything you want.

The bad: In sand you will just dig down and plow, they are not good in sand at all, they do not inspire confidence, and I ride quite a bit in sand living in southern california. Its a very hard tire compound and the sidewalls are super stiff, I've never had so much trouble spooning on new tires, you'll need a heat gun/blowdryer to soften them up and plenty of windex. They respond well to airing down to 26/28psi (no luggage). They aren't as heavy as motoz tires but heavier and harder than more street oriented tires.

The ugly: I haven't taken them in the canyons yet but I'm running a 120 front and 150 rear on an 05 1200GSA with suspension that needs replacing and it wants to understeer. Lean it way over and it runs wide in turns. Once this rain lets up next week I'll take it to ortega highway and see how it handles a few miles of twisties, but its not looking as good as my previous tire set up, kenda big block paver in front, kenda cruiser on the rear. The mitas will be leaps and bounds better off road but the trailmax missions will give you more traction on road.

Only have a Mission on the front of 1250GSA atm. I have always thought that the steering on the GS & GSA's were a bit quick & light. But the bike has gone around corners easy with neutral steering & tracking. And this has been the case for 94,000 kms worth of front tyres of many types and brands.
The Mission front took a looooong time to settle down and give any hint of traction or stability. After 1000 kms we get on OK. The steering is slower and little bit more effort required to corner now, which was fine by me, but the front runs wide, not necessarily under-steering but just reluctant to turn. I thought i would adapt over 1000 kms and adjust how i ride to compensate but not yet.
There's not a lot of tyre on the edge left to use but i guess will have to trust the tyre & lean over more. Or hang off more
Brief ride on varied wet surfaces felt safe & confidence building. Quiet & vibe free atm.

 

[Rick92040]

Only have a Mission on the front of 1250GSA atm. I have always thought that the steering on the GS & GSA's were a bit quick & light. But the bike has gone around corners easy with neutral steering & tracking. And this has been the case for 94,000 kms worth of front tyres of many types and brands.
The Mission front took a looooong time to settle down and give any hint of traction or stability. After 1000 kms we get on OK. The steering is slower and little bit more effort required to corner now, which was fine by me, but the front runs wide, not necessarily under-steering but just reluctant to turn. I thought i would adapt over 1000 kms and adjust how i ride to compensate but not yet.
There's not a lot of tyre on the edge left to use but i guess will have to trust the tyre & lean over more. Or hang off more
Brief ride on varied wet surfaces felt safe & confidence building. Quiet & vibe free atm.

Perhaps the problem is the new Mission tire is just not meshing up with the used off-brand tire on the back.

 

[GrayBeard]

Over the past 4 days I spent out in West Virginia I got to really test how these tires perform during some pretty fast chicken strip therapy. I don't generally like to ride on public roads so hard that I'm scraping hard parts and it's nice to know that I can push these tires right out to the edge without any concern for how they'll grip. Riding hard there were a few times during the weekend on decreasing radius turns that I put some wear on the pegs and they left me with nothing but confidence keeping my pace at about 8/10ths.

It's pretty amazing that tires with a medium hard compound for long life perform so well in that kind of use. I'm still going with the theory that they used some form of dark magic in the construction of these things that defy physics.

These tires have about 4000 hard charging (long hours at 80++ mph) road trip miles on them and another several hundred miles of twisty roads that left them still with about a quarter to half inch of unused edge on them. Very confidence inspiring.

 

[BillGsa]

Over the past 4 days I spent out in West Virginia I got to really test how these tires perform during some pretty fast chicken strip therapy. I don't generally like to ride on public roads so hard that I'm scraping hard parts and it's nice to know that I can push these tires right out to the edge without any concern for how they'll grip. Riding hard there were a few times during the weekend on decreasing radius turns that I put some wear on the pegs and they left me with nothing but confidence keeping my pace at about 8/10ths.

It's pretty amazing that tires with a medium hard compound for long life perform so well in that kind of use. I'm still going with the theory that they used some form of dark magic in the construction of these things that defy physics.

These tires have about 4000 hard charging (long hours at 80++ mph) road trip miles on them and another several hundred miles of twisty roads that left them still with about a quarter to half inch of unused edge on them. Very confidence inspiring.

And here’s the proof, Greybeard’s in Hi-Vis...

 

[GrayBeard]

And here’s the proof, Greybeard’s in Hi-Vis...

Great video Bill!! Loved the music.

 

[GrayBeard]

I should have mentioned in my previous posts on the tires that I've been running them at 34 psi front; 36 psi rear. Solo with light luggage. If I know I'm headed in to a day of off-road that might include some softer terrain, I'll drop the pressures to the high 20's psi and turn on Enduro Pro mode to shutoff the TPMS warning.

 

[Hogges]

Here is a comparison which includes this tire. Two things which stuck out:

1) The TMM rear tire alone is six pounds heavier than the TKC80. That's huge, especially for a rotating mass which needs to be accelerated and decelerated. That's probably around 10lbs combined front and rear!
2) The rubber compound is the hardest in the test. Which is great for durability but not so good when you are trying to get good grip in all conditions, including wet roads.

I have a friend who has them and he is happy with them as an all purpose tire.

 

[bmw_rider]

Perhaps the problem is the new Mission tire is just not meshing up with the used off-brand tire on the back.

I now have a rear Mission tyre installed. Much better combination than with the worn rear Michelin Anakee Adventure. And now possibly as smooth as with AA's front & rear and definitely quieter.
The Mission are much quieter & smoother than the Motoz GPS tyres i have used.
The steering, turn-in & mid corner feel is good now. May be a slight bit of under-steer (at times) but insignificant.
The front tyre is good in the wet with my confidence in it increasing. No issue with the rear but i don't gas it up hard exiting corners and RAIN mode will sort out any traction issues.
I am running the front at 34 psi & the rear 40 psi as per the TPMS read out. Any higher and the tyres just don't feel as if they are connecting with the road surface properly, especially the shitty rough surfaces on the crap roads provided with our taxes.

On unsealed roads, the front so far hooks up better than the Motoz GPS tyre. The rear tyre not so much.
I think on unsealed roads the rear pressure should be less. Maybe 38. These are very hard/stiff tyres.
But at the same time the ride & bump quality of the tyres is good.

If the Mission's get the same kms i got out of the Motoz GPS, they will be fitted again (unless a Mission beater tyre becomes available )

 

[RobE30]

On my 14 1200 GS I have a set of squared off A3 on it now. I've been debating about tires since I got the bike a month ago and was waffling btwn these and the e,07+. Got a puncture last Saturday while riding some gravel, plugged it and decided to go with the trailmax ( local dealer has them in stock). E07 have to be ordered. They're getting installed tomorrow. Will report back

 

[GrayBeard]

I also run my tires at 2 - 4 psi lower than the factory spec of 36/42. I'm almost never near full weight. I get better grip and wear at these pressures. If I know I'll be off the pavement all day, I'll air down into the high twenties and run Enduro Pro mode which will silence the low tire warning.