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Nonesense again that I'm the holder of the magic ROAD 6 key. The scientific process makes the decisions for you. I make none at all. I'm not God, so the process needs to bring the data. Get reproducible and accurate data and that data isn't a possession to one person. Reproducible means it is unbiased and can be repeated by anyone that follows the same process. No bias. Now we can "move on" after improvements mitigate what really went wrong. As is we have accusations, nothing more. Not cool.

I'm out on this. Pick your method. I'll stick with the truth. Less than that isn't useful to me.
You've been really grasping at straws, and "really" coming across as a know it all. Yes......there is more than enough chatter out there on multiple forums about the Road 6 having issues, and my friend has had a less than stellar experience with a Road 6 on his Busa. Michelin in general appears to be having quality issues with their car tires as well, the local mechanic shop I have been using for over 20 years and who has sold MANY Michelin tires over the decades, has even said that their overall quality vs price has really suffered as of late. Not sure what is going on, but they are not "IMHO" the premium tire company they have always known to be, but they sure as hell charge a premium for all their tires.

And you bring up the term DATA, well........who the hell can trust data these days and who gets to verify the data? I will take the word/experiences of real people any day of the week, and just because you don't like what you are reading or hearing about, it doesn't make it any less true. ;)
 
Reflecting on this I agree with the principle, but disagree on the process. Consumers are now responsible for data gathering? Interesting. Some edits below in red may provide a better path on this. Product failures aren’t solely on the back of the consumer—the manufacturer has the responsibility to act.
We Michelin still need to isolate the problem correctly to move your point. As is, I don't see quantitative evidence it is endemic to the tire, or even ONE tire yet. Was it damaged in installation by a too rough auto tire machine? What is the root cause, the tire or the installation or? —- We Michelin can't, we Michelin don't have the proper scientific evidence.

If users replace the bad tire with a like replacement via Michelin warranty and the problem goes away, we now have a statistical set of evidence being accumulated that says XYZ of XYZ of road 6's are problamatic for "some" reason (we don't know that yet, though). NOW we Michelin can act properly and suggest until the real root cause is established, best move on.
That's not what this site is trying to do...it is trying to say all ROAD 6 tires are bad with no substantiated evidence of that claim.
I fundamentally disagree with this statement. People have shared experiences with the tire and how Michelin did and did not respond and resolve the issue. Like any review online it it buyer beware when there are potential problems and whether those are resolved.

In my recent Mitas experience they replaced the tire that had issues, all I can expect for a product that did not meet expectations.
 
Reflecting on this I agree with the principle, but disagree on the process. Consumers are now responsible for data gathering? Interesting. Some edits below in red may provide a better path on this. Product failures aren’t solely on the back of the consumer—the manufacturer has the responsibility to act.



I fundamentally disagree with this statement. People have shared experiences with the tire and how Michelin did and did not respond and resolve the issue. Like any review online it it buyer beware when there are potential problems and whether those are resolved.

In my recent Mitas experience they replaced the tire that had issues, all I can expect for a product that did not meet expectations.
Over the years, I've encountered more than one engineer who felt like it was their duty to convince customers that the problem they thought they had really wasn't a problem. Even to the point of producing charts, graphs, etc. to help adjust their thinking.
All it ever did was to sour the relationship, and in most cases start divorce proceedings because of the lack of respect.
 
Let the tyre wars Begin? 🛞 Me I'm sticking with Shinko, 804/805 reflective, big block, they're great tyres and last as long or longer as others, if not at their affordable price I can buy 2 sets for the cost of one big brand. Sparks thrown....you may continue. Can we war over oil 🛢 next 🤠👍
 
My personal experience is NO proof definitely to whether Road 6 pulls or not but on MY 2016 GS I can do no-hands on cruise control for miles going dead straight. Does not prove anything just MY observation on MY GS. Also R6 are OEM on all RT's and thousands RT-P's as standard equipment as far as I see in CA.
 
I’m wondering if the problem is due to how your tires are balanced?

My Road 6s perform flawlessly on my 2023 GS. Have about 12,000 km on them. Quiet and run straight with lots of tread life left to go.

They replaced a set of Bridgestones that became misshapen, probably due to lots of highway miles driven in extreme heat of the southwestern U.S.
 
I’m wondering if the problem is due to how your tires are balanced?

My Road 6s perform flawlessly on my 2023 GS. Have about 12,000 km on them. Quiet and run straight with lots of tread life left to go.

They replaced a set of Bridgestones that became misshapen, probably due to lots of highway miles driven in extreme heat of the southwestern U.S.
As has been discussed on this forum for nearly two years as well as other forums, some riders have exhibited a noticeable pull when riding down the road after installing Road 6 tires.

Numerous remedies have been attempted and, so far, all have apparently failed outside of replacing the Road 6 tires...with something else.
 
Having bought my first ever R1200GS 2009 last month, I was very interested in this post.
My new purchase came with MR6's fitted. the front has plenty of miles in it, but the rear was shot!
I have experience of MR5's on my GSX1300R and they handled beautifully...allowing the bike to be pushed hard through the corners with predictable handling. The only problem with them they picked up all sorts of debris and I had three punctures (one front and two rear). so I was a little apprehensive about buying the Road 6's for the GS, but only spending money on the rear to match the front was the deciding factor!
I fitted the new rubber and I run at the advised pressures of 2.5 and 2.2 bar. After scrubbing in for the last 100miles or so, this is what I think...
A great tyre, with great handling characteristics. Where I live we have good roads with ample opportunity to use the bike enthusiastically! I have enjoyed the handling to the point where I trust the rubber to not throw a curved ball at me, but as others have reported I too have say that if you take your hands off the bars the bike wants to go to the left! I notice nothing when my hands are on the bars or even one handed riding, but it does want to go left on its own.
As this is the first GS I've owned and not tried any other rubber I cannot compare.
I will keep an eye on them...time will tell!
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